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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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my cam is 240/244 608/598 on 112 +4 58cc 5.3 heads 2.02/1.6 what heads gaskets can i ran,and be safe on 93 octane? .040 or .051

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plan on flycutting bout .080 stock ls1 block

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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Your compression will be almost 12:1 with an .040 gasket. You would be better off with .051.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Estimating that your flycuts will result in 1cc of cylinder volume, here are the calculations. The .052 calculation is based on the GM 6.0L MLS gasket, the .040 calculation is based on a Cometic gasket.

.040 Calculation:




.052 Calculation:



DCR numbers are NOT CORRECT, I DID NOT calculate IVC. Is that a Comp Cams grind?

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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ya man its a comp cam
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by johnster
ya man its a comp cam
That gives you a 74.5 IVC @ .006.

DCR calculates to: 11.73 SCR = 8.55 DCR

11.26 SCR = 8.22 DCR
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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I would go with the .051 gasket. Even with .080 flycuts, you're gonna be close with that size cam and a 58cc chamber. ALWAYS check PTV when doing a setup like this, assuming things can cost you a motor or bare min a set of heads.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Check PTV you might even be able to get away with less then that, leaving a little more strength in the piston. My personal clearance was 0.045 with a .056 gasket, 59cc on a stock exhaust valve with 242* of duration.

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i started cutting to day i was planing on only cutting the intake valves, well tps said i would be ok with the .040 gaskets even on a 100 shot, cents i was flycutting

what yall think? i going to check ptv
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Are the .080" flycut measurements with or without headgaskets installed when you flycut?
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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without head gaskets
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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I have 59cc 5.3 heads, 2.02 valves, 240/244 111 XE-R cam, with .040" gaskets. My comp calculated to 11.67 SCR, 8.77 DCR. It runs beautifully with no KR on 93 octane and no drastic cuts in timing.

I cut the pistons .100" deep to achieve .090" p/v clearance to the intake valve. (didn't have to cut for exhaust valves)

I don't think .080" flycut will get you enough clearance.

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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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how much clearance do u need to be safe?
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by johnster
how much clearance do u need to be safe?
.080" Intake
.100" Exhaust
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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im running 58cc heads. 226/230 .609/.588 cam, stock MLS gaskets and I didnt have to flycut. My compression is 11.6:1 and my DCR is right at 8.9:1. I have to run 93 octane, 91 gives me KR if im ragging on it. I had atleast .110 on intake and exhaust for clearance. I stopped checking once I established I had atleast that much.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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got ya thanks 405hp z06

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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
.080" Intake
.100" Exhaust
ant it the other way around?
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 01:02 AM
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No, what I posted is correct.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 01:23 AM
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Guys. Stop wasting your time worrying about useless formula's like DCR, and spend more time matching your combo together. IE: The heads/cam matching, valvetrain geometry, etc.

I've never once bothered with DCR, and never once have I built a weak engine.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Damian
Guys. Stop wasting your time worrying about useless formula's like DCR, and spend more time matching your combo together. IE: The heads/cam matching, valvetrain geometry, etc.

I've never once bothered with DCR, and never once have I built a weak engine.
I agree, but no one is discussing it (DCR) in this thread. I post it if I know the cam specs because people on this website think its the be all/end all of engine specs. IMHO, its just another number.
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