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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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i voted el torro cause thats what i have..............though not installed yet.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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anymore info on the El Torro cam. I'm running stock LS6 heads, Cometic .040,TSP228R 114LSA LS6 intake have 405RWHP 373RWTQ and looking for tighter LSA cam with more torque. I don't drag race.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by coanan
anymore info on the El Torro cam. I'm running stock LS6 heads, Cometic .040,TSP228R 114LSA LS6 intake have 405RWHP 373RWTQ and looking for tighter LSA cam with more torque. I don't drag race.
just do a search. i think there is only one guy that has any numbers. but they are crazy good. im hoping for something close lol.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by coanan
anymore info on the El Torro cam. I'm running stock LS6 heads, Cometic .040,TSP228R 114LSA LS6 intake have 405RWHP 373RWTQ and looking for tighter LSA cam with more torque. I don't drag race.
My cam is close. Here is my graph. I think my cam may have been the predecessor to the El Torro cam as it was what Predator Z spec'd for me awhile back before I ever heard about "El Torro".

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rmtt
My cam is close. Here is my graph. I think my cam may have been the predecessor to the El Torro cam as it was what Predator Z spec'd for me awhile back before I ever heard about "El Torro".

Are you running the stock 853 heads? I'm debating if I should leave the TSP228R in and get better heads; just don't have a $1000.00 lying around.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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[QUOTE=coanan;11040317]Are you running the stock 853 heads? I'm debating if I should leave the TSP228R in and get better heads; just don't have a $1000.00 lying around.[/QUOTE


The cams are so close I definitely think you'll see a better gain with heads. Just get the best ones you can afford because that is the single biggest limiting factor on potential power.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by coanan
Are you running the stock 853 heads? I'm debating if I should leave the TSP228R in and get better heads; just don't have a $1000.00 lying around.
I am running the stock heads(853) currently.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Wonder how much more HP/TQ there would be using the 243s and cometic .040
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Im guna be runnin the el torro in mine so thats my vote. My mods will be as followed

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and itll be through a very whiney 10 bolt for awhile
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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what are the specs on the el torro?
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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230 230 .612 .592 111+2
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 05:42 AM
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TV3 is a good grind, though over time I started shying away from LSK due to the harshness of the lobes. XFI being a bit tamer than LSK.

I had a "Predator" cam grind over 2 years ago that had good results that used LSK. It was basicaly an offbeat of G5X2 with LSK on intake.

The "El Torro", aka " The Bull", was conceived as an upgrade from the original 230/230 XE-R grind (with a tighter LSA), creating a mutant Reverse/strait split.
That translated in one of the best "all around" grinds, maintaining monster trq below the curve.
If you research graphs of popular low 230 duration cams with standard splits, you'll see that trq is where they lack and where "El Torro" shines.

I always will maintain that you "SHOULD" degree the cam upon install, ANY cam, to insure correct valve events and maximise potential.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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hijacking in progress - PredZ pm me (yours were off last I checked)

sorry I spell it different as I was always taught 'toro' ... but yes it's the real deal
not that I'd ever take anything away from TSP and their grinds ... they're proven

I vote T3 ... why ... it's already in ... it's a good cam

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 06:22 AM
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391rwhp here w/ the El Torro cam through a 3600 unlocked stall, 3:73s and 12 bolt.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by fast
hijacking in progress - PredZ pm me (yours were off last I checked)

sorry I spell it different as I was always taught 'toro' ... but yes it's the real deal
not that I'd ever take anything away from TSP and their grinds ... they're proven

I vote T3 ... why ... it's already in ... it's a good cam
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Johns00Z28
391rwhp here w/ the El Torro cam through a 3600 unlocked stall, 3:73s and 12 bolt.
damn that is pretty good being unlocked and with a 12 bolt...
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