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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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good move. always good to stall first, you would hate a cam with the stock stall. anyway, i has the yank ss3600 on my 02 red z and i loved it. you will not regret it. the yank converters tend to drive tighter than most, so your 3600 will probably feel as tight around town as most 3200 stalls.
yea thats the one i meant to say yank ss3600

is there one called just 3600 by itself without hte ss in front of it?
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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i dont think so. yank has the ss and pt series. they stand for super stock and pro thruster
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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so im just waiting on that damn tax return. got the TA ordered and the LS2 timing chain. so jamie, like i told you, the Basic kit on TSP has all the things you told me i would need as far as head bolts and gaskets and nothing extra and nothing extra, i will probably order that tommorow
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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so im just waiting on that damn tax return. got the TA ordered and the LS2 timing chain. so jamie, like i told you, the Basic kit on TSP has all the things you told me i would need as far as head bolts and gaskets and nothing extra and nothing extra, i will probably order that tommorow
do it man. then get the flywheel locking tool before you forget. i have the longer crankbolt and the crank pulley removal tool.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Raise
good move. always good to stall first, you would hate a cam with the stock stall. anyway, i has the yank ss3600 on my 02 red z and i loved it. you will not regret it. the yank converters tend to drive tighter than most, so your 3600 will probably feel as tight around town as most 3200 stalls.
I have read many of your posts in this thread and you give great advice! I agree with what you said about the 224 I had that in my car and it drove very well. The car turned 11.6 as its best with 1.59 as a best 60' time.

I would also note that the converter will flash higher with more power. So, if you are doing a head and cam and a 3600 stall it should flash close to 3800 or a bit higher.

Keep up the good advice.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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I have read many of your posts in this thread and you give great advice! I agree with what you said about the 224 I had that in my car and it drove very well. The car turned 11.6 as its best with 1.59 as a best 60' time.

I would also note that the converter will flash higher with more power. So, if you are doing a head and cam and a 3600 stall it should flash close to 3800 or a bit higher.

Keep up the good advice.
Thanks for the kind words. Why do you say the converter will flash higher with more power? I'm not saying your wrong...I just didn't know that was true.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Hey Darren, check out Bill's numbers up there. You see what can be done with a nice small cam??

Bill, nice numbers buddy
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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do it man. then get the flywheel locking tool before you forget. i have the longer crankbolt and the crank pulley removal tool.

O, so i dont need to order the crank bolt. i will look for a flywheel locking tool this weekend.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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O, so i dont need to order the crank bolt. i will look for a flywheel locking tool this weekend.
you will need the crank bolt. i am talking about the longer crank bolt needed for pulling the new pulley on.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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got it..
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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bump for friday. have another question, i was on the tsp website and was looking at the LS6 heads. Not a bad price. how do they stack against the 5.3 heads as far as power and cam choices?
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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5.3 vs. LS6

5.3 - significantly higher compression, good for low to mid-range torque
LS6 - better for bigger cubes and higher end power

If I'm correct, the ports on their 5.3 heads are smaller then the LS6 ports, which would account for the better torque.

my $.02
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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LS6 heads are also 64 cc which also increase the CR.

Go with LS6, it is a better head. Mill them if you want more SCR. A small chamber is only good down to a point.

LS6>5.3

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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so, just lookin for better power gains, and would this be a better cam for say, an MS3?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Honestly, I dislike the TSP cams so you will have a biased opinion from me on those. Too many people just jump on the bandwagon, there are many other better choices out there. I do not like the design and the power curve. You don't have to sacrifice low end for top end power. My F13 is doing pretty well on the dyno (through a 9" and a dyno that reads quite low compared to all other dynojets around here) and the track (although the track times could be much better with more seat time).
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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But a jump to the LS6 heads over the 5.3 heads would give me a higher CR, so infact the power gains are more substantial with the LS6 heads. Would these heads be a better choice if i were to go the MS3 route over the f13?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
LS6 heads are also 64 cc which also increase the CR.

Go with LS6, it is a better head. Mill them if you want more SCR. A small chamber is only good down to a point.

LS6>5.3

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I could have sworn the 5.3 heads had a smaller chamber. Are you sure they are both 64cc? I realize thay a smaller chamber is only good up to a point, but I believe the ports are also smaller on the 5.3 heads are they not? This would certainly help keep some good low end power because of the increased air velocity.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
Honestly, I dislike the TSP cams so you will have a biased opinion from me on those. Too many people just jump on the bandwagon, there are many other better choices out there. I do not like the design and the power curve. You don't have to sacrifice low end for top end power. My F13 is doing pretty well on the dyno (through a 9" and a dyno that reads quite low compared to all other dynojets around here) and the track (although the track times could be much better with more seat time).
I agree with you here. I have never liked the results of the TSP cams that much. They "seem" to put out good peak numbers, but as you said, the curve they produce has never really been that impressive. Thunder and Futral have some shelf cams that produce great results. The TR224 and the F13 are certainly two of the contenders. However, a custom grind is and always will be the best way to go.
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Darren, once again, Im gonna have to steer you towards the F13. Dont go with the Magic Stick simply cuz its bigger. I mentioned that to you because I know youre building a top end drag car, and youre looking for top end power. However, you dont wanna sacrifice too much mid range, cuz midrange certainly has its place in racing. I hear what WS6FirebirdTA00 is saying about the LS6 heads, so before I give my opinion on those, Id like to call TSP and get some more specs on those. Id really like to know the port sizes. Anyway, as far as cam goes, have you considered going custom? I dont remember, but did you say you contacted Patrick G about spec'ing you a grind?

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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jammie, just sent patrick g a pm. told him about this thread, so with any luck he will post up. Also told my buddy about it. i think i told you about him, he has a 2000 silverado that did 12.84 at the track when i did the 12.74. Anyway, we will see what patrick says, i would love a custom grind. Also, new news. might have to look at camonly again. Ben is selling his flt lvl5 tranny and i might ****** it for a bitchin price, which would eat some of the money for heads. but thats a long shot right now, so we will continue to talk H/C!
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