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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:06 AM
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I put in my gt2-3 cam, ls6 springs, and hardneded pushrods, followed the guide at ls1tech to a T. especially making sure my timing chain was lined up correctly and everything else in the guide.

now I try to start the truck and all it does is crank, wont turn over. Its definately getting fuel because I can smell it, how do I check for spark?

i am going to try and loosen the rockers, maybe I put them on too tight so it cant build compression. i think they may be too tight because my torque wrench is 1/2" and the only 10mm I had was 1/4 and no converter...

any other suggestions please help, I need my truck working by tonight


truck is a 2004 silverado with a 5.3 lm7
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:18 AM
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double check all your electrical connections. especially the coils. pull a plug and check for spark
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:26 AM
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dump question, how do i check for it when im trying to start the truck...

all connections are good though
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:36 AM
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its a two person job have somone crank it while you look at a plug that you pulled
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:39 AM
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You'll need to be two people to check the spark unless you have a timing advance light with long wires.

To check without the timing advance light, pull a plug, and look at it while someone cranks.
You'll need to ground the plug somehow (just touch the block with it), and you should see a small blue spark.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:51 AM
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ok thanks

in the interest of ideas, lets say spark is good.

then what?
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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loosening the rockers didnt help
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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just pulled a sparkplug, its soaking wet with gasoline

now what?...

ive read try crank it with the fuel injector fuse pulled.... thoughts?


....damn this had to happen at 4 in the morning.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:50 AM
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The connectors to the coli package is connected, right? And you have adjusted the valves correct to the new cam? All connectors are OK? maybe the valves are all open, if they are adjusted to hard?
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:54 AM
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i rotated the crank by hand after i loaded up the new springs and rockers and everything was moving as it should, i think i just flooded it
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:26 AM
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you did put back the CAM sensor contact? Do you have any message in your dash?
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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yea, cam sensor is fine. no dash messages, no dtc's either.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:54 AM
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Run a comp test to check the valves.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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you can buy a long spark plug wire at the parts store for a dollar or so. put a plug on it and ground it where you can see it when inside the truck.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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replace the plugs, do a compression check while your at it. Double, no triple check all of you electrical connections especially at the coil pack harness. There is no reason your motor would lose compression with that cam unless you installed the cam backwards and bent the valves. It is very hard to verify the dot to dot if the oil pump is still installed, are you positive you got it right? I used a camera to verify mine. Its hard to get your head angled just right to see for 100%. The valves arnt adjustable in a ls1. you just tighten and go... even if the torque wasnt right on the rockers it would run regardless.

Do you have a scanner on you to absolutely verify there are no codes? Could be a fluck thing like a crank sensor or cam sensor went out... A scanner will make everything easier as it will tell you if you missed something obvious.

Are you sure the cam you bought is compatible with your engine? I believe earlier years had the cam sensor in the back and newer years have the cam sensor on the front... Your engine is right around the point they switched it i believe? im not positive on that though, but something to check into. I know they changed it from the ls1 in the back to the ls2 in the front..
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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check all your ground wires.make sure they are on tight.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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I found my problem.

Short answer, Im a dumbass.

Long answer is my cam gear was not lined up properly with the crankshaft gear. On the instructions it said to line up the holes, well mine didnt have a hole so I figured it meant the cam stud (that little piece that sticks out of the cam into the gear) since there is a hole in the gear for it that is not lined up with the other 3. I didnt realize this error until got-a-ls1 showed a picture and i realized I was lining up the wrong hole. Instead of a hole on my cam gear it was a little indention near the teeth so with the chain on you cant notice it.

After taking the whole thing apart, again, and lining those up properly this time, and putting everything back together, she started first try and idles fine.

Thanks for all your help guys.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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good to hear you got it working, glad u didnt **** up any valves!
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good to hear you got it working, glad u didnt **** up any valves!
x2 as soon as I read that I thought "Oh **** I hope he didn't bend any valves!"

Have fun with the newfound power!
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 01:51 AM
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x2 as soon as I read that I thought "Oh **** I hope he didn't bend any valves!"

Have fun with the newfound power!
I thought the same exact thing. Guess you got lucky! Glad you got it running.
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