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Mar 1, 2009 | 04:46 PM

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anyone use a clone cam?

just thinking about getting a clone cam from the dude on ebay. only 115 bucks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TQ:MOTORS:1123

any experiences?

thanks,
Jeremy

Mar 1, 2009 | 05:22 PM

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I just posted this same topic yesterday... https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...tured-cam.html

Mar 1, 2009 | 05:28 PM

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i wouldnt even think about it,just not worth it.valvetrain parts are not something to skimp on.

Mar 1, 2009 | 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by redtail2426

i wouldnt even think about it,just not worth it.valvetrain parts are not something to skimp on.

Agreed 110%

Mar 1, 2009 | 05:38 PM

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unless you want to spend atleast an additional 400 dollars later, i wouldnt try it. its remanufactured which could mean anything

besides, buy a bigger cam

Mar 1, 2009 | 06:48 PM

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man, people will clone anything these days

Mar 1, 2009 | 07:02 PM

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We used a regrind once in a LT1 it was ok pulled hard and out lasted the engine.

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Mar 1, 2009 | 07:34 PM

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Nothing wrong with a re-grind IF it's re-ground properly and heat treated properly. Just make sure you account for the reduced base circle and make sure the lifters are still in a position in the bores that allows for them to see proper oiling.

Just because a cam is ground to the same lift and duration numbers does not mean it's the same lobe profile either...so be aware a cam that is advertised as a clone of another may not be, and may not perform the same way.

Mar 1, 2009 | 07:35 PM

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Strange... Regrinds were all that was available for the first 50 years of hotrodding, now they're automatically classified as junk. Guess you guys are a LOT younger than me...

Russ

not junk, but people are worried about what they dont know about, plus it would be a pain in the *** and expensive for most to have to replace their motor if something bad did happen bc of that cam...

Mar 1, 2009 | 07:36 PM

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Ordered and installed (218/224 .550/.550 114). No problems.

Mar 1, 2009 | 09:43 PM

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That ebay seller sold almost 100 cams in the past 12 months with 99% positive feedback. I think it's safe to say that he must be doing some decent regrinds.

Mar 2, 2009 | 05:46 AM

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well secondly you need to know the lobe profiles on these.I mean if you dont care about ipower,drivability,tunability,and just want it,then go ahead.But the lobe profiles are just as important as the duration specs that you may want.They could me some really lazzy lobes,which will suck imo.Or it could have real aggressive lobes,which may put out good power,but be kinda hard on your valvetrain.Theres a lot more to cams then just duration specs and lsa.

Mar 2, 2009 | 08:43 AM

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I looked in to the eBay regrind guy a few months ago. I didn't get one but he seemed pretty straight up. The regrind machine is just like a key greinder. You put in the original and it cuts an exact duplicate. He uses teh orignal Comp Cam or GM cam for the "template" cam. He uses 5.3l or 6.0l LSx cams for the cores. The cam grinder can add or subtract 2 dregrees of LSA when it is cut.

What he doesn't mention in his ad is that you have to run 7.500 pushrods to make up for the cuting.

Thanks, Rick

Mar 2, 2009 | 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lam1871

Ordered and installed (218/224 .550/.550 114). No problems.

got that same one

Mar 2, 2009 | 10:48 AM

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Many people clone cams. They let others do the work (research) and then make their own copy of it. I know of a shop in my area who does it all the time. He will get a cam or head and cam install customer and send the cam off to his cam doctor and keep a record of the grind. Then when someone wants that cam he call his buddy the cam grinder and pop one out. It's a copy of the original.

I don't/won't do that. All our grinds come from Comp and are spec'd by Erik at HKE.

If you want a TR224 or MS4 or G5x3 or Streetsweeper.. etc then buy one from the people who took the time to do the research to get the cam right. Call them and they can explain it's characteristics to you better than someone who just copy's them.

Mar 2, 2009 | 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lam1871

Ordered and installed (218/224 .550/.550 114). No problems.

How much power did you get from this cam?
I bought the one with 116 lsa let me know ok

Mar 2, 2009 | 08:03 PM

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yea hes gotta be running a very small base circle to get those durations from a stock cam.. i guess if you havnt bought pushrods yet it may be a good deal?.. but still

Mar 2, 2009 | 09:01 PM

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thanks for the input. i will be buying the real cam.

jeremy

Mar 2, 2009 | 09:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 99blancoSS

If you want a TR224 or MS4 or G5x3 or Streetsweeper.. etc then buy one from the people who took the time to do the research to get the cam right. Call them and they can explain it's characteristics to you better than someone who just copy's them.

I agree with ^^^^^^^. Same when I bought my REAL Superhawk hood from Roger at US Exotics. Guy busts his *** to build a killer hood just to have someone rip off his design, not to mention his skill. Then sell copies on ebay under the Super hawk name. What a bunch of douches.