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Old 06-08-2009 | 11:11 PM
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what size camshafts are yall running on stock bottom end cars?
Old 06-09-2009 | 01:11 AM
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buddy of mine, "brake" runs an ms4 on a 59cc
Old 06-09-2009 | 02:43 AM
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torquer v.2 w/.040 cometic head gasket no prob
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torquer v.2 w/.040 cometic head gasket no prob
are you on stock pistons or flycutted ones? i was planning on running 228r cam
Old 06-09-2009 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001ws6-500hp
buddy of mine, "brake" runs an ms4 on a 59cc
Thats a very bad idea.
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ms4, .040 cometics and flycut for intake valve only.
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ms4, .040 cometics and flycut for intake valve only.
wow i should be able to clear a 228 or torquer v2 cam then
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You guys that think that just because a cam clears that it is safe to run it need to take a basic engine building course or something.

A 228 cam will clear 59cc heads but will probably be kinda close on stock pistons.

I was running a 232/236 .585 cam (pretty much a TQv2 I believe) on some 57ish cc heads with pistons with -2cc of relief. I actually measured my clearances and I was pretty much right at your safe clearances(.080 Intake/.100 Exhaust). If I had stock pistons there probably would have been some contact.

My point is you shouldnt ask on the internet if it will fit, you need to take the measurements on your particular setup and if its too close you need to decide if you want to run it like that or you would rather change your setup slightly to give you an accepatable clearance.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
You guys that think that just because a cam clears that it is safe to run it need to take a basic engine building course or something.

A 228 cam will clear 59cc heads but will probably be kinda close on stock pistons.

I was running a 232/236 .585 cam (pretty much a TQv2 I believe) on some 57ish cc heads with pistons with -2cc of relief. I actually measured my clearances and I was pretty much right at your safe clearances(.080 Intake/.100 Exhaust). If I had stock pistons there probably would have been some contact.

My point is you shouldnt ask on the internet if it will fit, you need to take the measurements on your particular setup and if its too close you need to decide if you want to run it like that or you would rather change your setup slightly to give you an accepatable clearance.
brad what would you think of a 228r with a 45" thick gasket instead of stock gm gasket? i just dont wanna order the wrong camshaft go to check clearences and it doesnt clear
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Originally Posted by Gregorya24
what size camshafts are yall running on stock bottom end cars?
setup im running:

partiot 59cc Ls6 stage II heads, with a LITTLE comp 224/.581/112lsa, ported 90/90, LT's/TD, supporting mods, putting down 458/410 to the ground. she runs like a raped ape...

car is m6, stock 10-bolt, 3.42 gears, stock bottom end, no flycutting...
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I'm running a TSP 231/237 with stock gasket and there's plenty of clearance.
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Originally Posted by ICRAZY6
I'm running a TSP 231/237 with stock gasket and there's plenty of clearance.
i regret selling my 231/237, but i wanted to max out that 224 before considering going larger. now if i do, i will go custom grind...

i remember talking with you quite a bit about the 231/237 cam. the guy i sold it to is now trying to sell it over on Ls1.com, since he sold his TA...
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Originally Posted by Gregorya24
brad what would you think of a 228r with a 45" thick gasket instead of stock gm gasket? i just dont wanna order the wrong camshaft go to check clearences and it doesnt clear
It will clear ok, I just recommend you measure your clearance when you do the install for piece of mind. Its not hard to do.
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Originally Posted by SSwt00SS
setup im running:

partiot 59cc Ls6 stage II heads, with a LITTLE comp 224/.581/112lsa, ported 90/90, LT's/TD, supporting mods, putting down 458/410 to the ground. she runs like a raped ape...

car is m6, stock 10-bolt, 3.42 gears, stock bottom end, no flycutting...
that is exactly what i got except ported advanced induction heads, so looks like its gonna be the 228/228 588"/558 on a 112 for me
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Originally Posted by brad8266
It will clear ok, I just recommend you measure your clearance when you do the install for piece of mind. Its not hard to do.
thanks i appreciate it man, i will def check all clearances before firing over
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Also guys check your DCR. If you have to high a DCR, you are going to run into detonnation issues.
Or you'll be forced to run lower timing to compensate and therefore negating any benefit of adding coompression.
Choose your parts carefully based on the fuel you'll run as well.
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Originally Posted by Gregorya24
what size camshafts are yall running on stock bottom end cars?
Im running a 228/230 with .585/.585 on 112lsa.
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ok cool thats almost identical to the 228r camshaft
Old 06-09-2009 | 11:24 AM
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Small 224r/.581 114 here with stock gm mls gaskets.
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I ran a Futral F14 with 58 cc heads and the stock GM MLS gasket without issues.



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