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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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which one is better for street use and baiscally stock motor with headers and 373 rear end with auto trans


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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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neither are good for most people street use
i run a ms4 in my street car but weighs only 3000 pounds has all supporting mods and sees most of its time on the street at wot

basically if you have to ask if its good for street use then there not going to be good for your application
run a smaller cam that was designed for heavy street cars and will give you good low end torque
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Both BIG cams, i had the MS4 awesome top-end power, nothing at low and mid range. Get a custom cam.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Do your research man, I spent like 3 days straight on this very site and based off the information already on here I purchased my cam. I bought a T-Rex, both cams how ever are very similar. Ask questions to the people who have big cams, the majority of them love the cams and alot of them DD them.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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I got the ms3 because I am dd mine and didnt wanna go too big!
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Originally Posted by USArmyZ28
Do your research man, I spent like 3 days straight on this very site and based off the information already on here I purchased my cam. I bought a T-Rex, both cams how ever are very similar. Ask questions to the people who have big cams, the majority of them love the cams and alot of them DD them.
I researched and talked to people to learn about cams. I have been reading magazines and books about it for years but was new into it with the LS engines. I did my research for 6 months and am very happy with my custom cam. I DD my car and I knock down 16-18 mpg in town and 28-30 mpg on the highway. It lopes like a drag car but I can shift the thing at 1500rpm and cruise around all day. Revs clean to 6500rpm and has amazing low end, you wont find that in either of those 2 cams you listed. Oh ya did I mention my setup is very easy on the valvetrain and runs PAC 1518 springs (beehive)
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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So does it cost much more to have a custom cam spec'd and ground Vs. an "off the shelf" cam?
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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So does it cost much more to have a custom cam spec'd and ground Vs. an "off the shelf" cam?
Like 15-25$ more... PM Patrick G
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up front it cost a couple more, maybe up to $50 but you will more then make up for it if you deal with the right people.

Just to mention the sponsors on this sight that I would recommend is Engine Power systems.
Geoff was the former owner of Thunder racing and designed all of there popular cams, now he went on his own and is still coming up with new ideas and they seem to be doing very well.

He could even get you a good mail order tune to go with his cam or take it to him for a good custom tune.

I dont have one of his cams in my race car at the moment but that will most likely change soon , I have a used cam that I threw in my Nova to try and is working ok but when I go single plane intake, Geoff is going to come up with a grind for me.

He did help me make my 239/243 @.050 .612 lift cam idle great with no surging whatsover.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 05:35 AM
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t-rex t-rex t-rex
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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AINT SKEERED, what other mods do u have done if u dont mind me asking
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custom is the way to go for a street car/track car...if you have a weekend warrior or track only car them i would recommend the TREX or the g5x4
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Also you're probably going to want to upgrade the gears, you can get away with the 3.73's but 4.10 or higher would be way better.
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Originally Posted by LS1PUNK
AINT SKEERED, what other mods do u have done if u dont mind me asking


which car Trans am or the chevy II?
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
up front it cost a couple more, maybe up to $50 but you will more then make up for it if you deal with the right people.

Just to mention the sponsors on this sight that I would recommend is Engine Power systems.
Geoff was the former owner of Thunder racing and designed all of there popular cams, now he went on his own and is still coming up with new ideas and they seem to be doing very well.

He could even get you a good mail order tune to go with his cam or take it to him for a good custom tune.

I dont have one of his cams in my race car at the moment but that will most likely change soon , I have a used cam that I threw in my Nova to try and is working ok but when I go single plane intake, Geoff is going to come up with a grind for me.

He did help me make my 239/243 @.050 .612 lift cam idle great with no surging whatsover.
So Geoff could tune my car for me? Thunder Racing doesnt dyno anymore and I cant really find anybody to tune it.
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED

He did help me make my 239/243 @.050 .612 lift cam idle great with no surging whatsover.


this cam is in my Chevy II. In my T/A i had an f13 cam , local mild ported heads ( 241 castings with 2.02 int, stock exh. valves) fast 90 , NW 90 tb, Edelbrock long tubes,Edelbrock catback with a cutout. SLP air lid, 12 bolt with 4.11 gears. stock shocks, bmr extreme tq arm still on the trans mount., lca relocation brackets, Lakewood lca's. Spec 3+ clutch that never would hold the nitrous(junk) That is what was on my setup for the times in the signature.
now I have an lq4 shortblock in it with the same heads I had before with an f14 cam ( got a deal on this cam from a friend) Tuned this one myself on the street and have not dynoed it yet but did run at the track in full street trim on Bald 315x35x17 nittos and ran 11.61 at 121.8 at 3850 lb race weight.

it sure feels stronger, Need to go see geoff at Engine power systems to put it on the dyno to see what it puts down.
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Oh and as for the question I went for the ms4. My car is a weekend warrior, but with that cam im hopping for more of a track car.
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Originally Posted by franksaltz28
So Geoff could tune my car for me? Thunder Racing doesnt dyno anymore and I cant really find anybody to tune it.
Geoff will tune it , he is a sponsor here now. He is by the first Thunder racing building in Industraplex.

Geoff did all the tuning for Thunder and thats why they dont dyno anymore.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
Geoff will tune it , he is a sponsor here now. He is by the first Thunder racing building in Industraplex.

Geoff did all the tuning for Thunder and thats why they dont dyno anymore.
Ok thanks ill have to look him up i want to make my head/cam car streetable.
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