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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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No check engine light, but there is a consistent "miss", the engine seems to run better when first started and gets progressively worse as it worms up. It feels almost like an ignition problem, surging, low power, etc...

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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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A friend of mine went around a corner the other day and dropped a plug wire. You might want to check the simple stuff first.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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-Just CRAP gas. Occasionally it happens. perhaps try a fuel additive to help displace water and restore some combustibility. Just a thought.

-Fuel...Air...Spark. Check them all out

- Minor vacuum leak

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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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A dirty MAF will cause a car to run rough.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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for how easy it is to do I would swap theplugs and the 02 sensors if you wanted to change something......... otherwise run that **** gas out and be sure to fill up with shell or bp next time. I had a problem like this upnorth when I filled up with a cornershitmarts' premium gas
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Emptied gas right out....
And filled up again.
Quick question, can a bent valve make a car run like crap without throwing a code? I did rev it a lil high a few days ago...
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Yes.

The motor isnt making any funny noises under the valve covers is it?

If plugs/O2's dont change anything, you might wanna pull the valve covers and check the push rods. A bent rod will not let the valve open all the way and cause runnng problems.

Hopefully its not that though, good luck.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Yes.

The motor isnt making any funny noises under the valve covers is it?

If plugs/O2's dont change anything, you might wanna pull the valve covers and check the push rods. A bent rod will not let the valve open all the way and cause runnng problems.

Hopefully its not that though, good luck.
I think I'm going to go get a compresson test.
But I'm pretty sure a bent valve whould throw a misfire code....
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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If you over-revved it, such as down shifting to 1st instead of 3rd and letting the clutch out, you could have a bent push rod. Pull the valve covers and rockers, take out the push rods and roll them on a surface plate. You should be able to tell if one is bent.
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Originally Posted by IRONFIST
I did rev it a lil high a few days ago...
Well so much for bad gas. **** just got real. How high?
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice78Transam
Well so much for bad gas. **** just got real. How high?
I dono, how high would it be if I shifted at 5000 rpm from third into 2nd...
A couple pushrods were bent, but the car seemed to run fine after replacing them.... The funny thing is though, this was before it started running like crap so I didn't bother posting about it in this thread.

Then all of a sudden I got in it, it wouldn't start, wouldn't even turn over. It was like the battery was dead... but the battery wasn't dead. I went and unplugged the aftermarket alarm, tried a few more times, car turned over and started.....
Now it runs like poo'....

No check engine light, no valvetrain noise, all the pushrods are fine as I went through them all.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Sounds like you got some bad gas, maybe with water in it? Cheap *** gas stations have all kind of crap like that...
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Well I went out at lunch and picked up some 243 heads from Davenport Motorsports... I guess we'll see if it's a bent valve this weekend.
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