Torquer 2 and torquer 3 people need input
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Staging Lane
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Torquer 2 and torquer 3 people need input ok I'm looking atboth of these cams and need some input from you guys like how do they drive as far as street manners and how choppy they are I want a real choppy cam and what kind of power they make..thanks in advance
Jared
Jared
i got this from trevor a long time ago and keep posting it when people ask because i was looking into both and was gonna go with the torquer v3 but then i decided to go custom for my car
"The problem with camshafts is that they're completely subjective. What one thinks is perfect another thinks is too big, too small, too much, not enough, etc. Below are the specs on both camshafts:
Torquer v.2: 232/234, .595"/.598", 112 or 113 LSA standard
Torquer v.3: 231/234, .643"/.598", 111 LSA standard
There were a few goals in designing the T3 cam:
1. better low-end and mid-range compared to the T2
2. more aggressive ramp rate on the intake for better power
3. all around great street/strip cam that is very driveable with a good tune
As you can see, the T3 does have one less degree of duration @ .050" on the intake. It's a more aggressive lobe that ramps up faster vs. the lobe on the T2. It provides greater net lift and allows for quicker opening and closing of the intake valve. Again, whether or not a cam works great in the mid-range is dependent on what you're comparing it to. A smaller cam like our 224R or 228R will provide you with a little more low-end power, but it won't make as much peak power. The T2 camshaft was designed to give customers the ability to make some great power without going too big on cam and without feeling like they didn't go big enough. The T3 was just a revision of the T2. With all other variables of a camshaft held constant, a tighter (i.e. lower numerically) LSA with added advance will help low-end and mid-range power. You can change just these two aspects and completely change the characteristics of how well a camshaft works. The goal is to find the happy medium where the cam works well and makes great power without falling off too quick up top or completely lacking any oomph down low. Some of these issues cannot be 100% solved with adjusting LSA and ICL. A lot of duration relative to the size of the engine is still going to have certain characteristics that go along with it, no matter the LSA or ICL.
The net result is that the T2 and T3 will make comparable power. The T3 is going to provide you with a little more low-end and mid-range power vs. the T2, and it also gives you the capability to use a little more of the flow potential of a good set of ported heads.
Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance"
"The problem with camshafts is that they're completely subjective. What one thinks is perfect another thinks is too big, too small, too much, not enough, etc. Below are the specs on both camshafts:
Torquer v.2: 232/234, .595"/.598", 112 or 113 LSA standard
Torquer v.3: 231/234, .643"/.598", 111 LSA standard
There were a few goals in designing the T3 cam:
1. better low-end and mid-range compared to the T2
2. more aggressive ramp rate on the intake for better power
3. all around great street/strip cam that is very driveable with a good tune
As you can see, the T3 does have one less degree of duration @ .050" on the intake. It's a more aggressive lobe that ramps up faster vs. the lobe on the T2. It provides greater net lift and allows for quicker opening and closing of the intake valve. Again, whether or not a cam works great in the mid-range is dependent on what you're comparing it to. A smaller cam like our 224R or 228R will provide you with a little more low-end power, but it won't make as much peak power. The T2 camshaft was designed to give customers the ability to make some great power without going too big on cam and without feeling like they didn't go big enough. The T3 was just a revision of the T2. With all other variables of a camshaft held constant, a tighter (i.e. lower numerically) LSA with added advance will help low-end and mid-range power. You can change just these two aspects and completely change the characteristics of how well a camshaft works. The goal is to find the happy medium where the cam works well and makes great power without falling off too quick up top or completely lacking any oomph down low. Some of these issues cannot be 100% solved with adjusting LSA and ICL. A lot of duration relative to the size of the engine is still going to have certain characteristics that go along with it, no matter the LSA or ICL.
The net result is that the T2 and T3 will make comparable power. The T3 is going to provide you with a little more low-end and mid-range power vs. the T2, and it also gives you the capability to use a little more of the flow potential of a good set of ported heads.
Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance"
well you already have a cam in the car now so I would say go with a set of heads. You will probably pick up more power over going with a new cam, and will make a killer street car
but if you are dead set on the two cams I would go with the T2 as it is easier on valve springs, and makes similar power.
but if you are dead set on the two cams I would go with the T2 as it is easier on valve springs, and makes similar power.
that's true...
new cam - maybe 20hp peak, and its possible to loss power down low. but it costs $500
new heads - easily 25-30hp, better heads could yield 30-40hp, and all across the board. cost is $1200-2000
new cam - maybe 20hp peak, and its possible to loss power down low. but it costs $500
new heads - easily 25-30hp, better heads could yield 30-40hp, and all across the board. cost is $1200-2000
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Thanks guys right now I want to change out the cam and I'll do heads in the future but I think the t2 cam is a good cam to go with and might be even better with heads than the cam I have now..I'm leaning towards to t2 cam bc I really don't feel like changing springs every few years LOL how's the driveabilitly on the cam?
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