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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Default Anybody running a big split duration on a 112+4?

If so, gotta dyno sheet? Trying to see what the TQ curve looks like on something like a 230/236 5xx/5xx 112+4. Thanks


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http://home.att.net/~carlos.ramirez1...2/site1003.jpg

TSP231/237 .598/.595 112
Stock heads, most bolt ons.

Here's my dyno sheet.
Take about 18 off each value. This dyno gives inflated numbers.
Well, at least the curves provide information.


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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Thanks man, that TQ curve looks NICE. Also looks like that cam would have pulled to 7K.

From what I understand the TSP 231 cam has only 2 degress of advance ground in. Did you request more? Or is that with 2 degrees?

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It's their standard grind.
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Probably just the +2 then. That TQ curve looks good for being on a 110 ICL. Doesn't look peaky.

How does the car feel on the street from 2500 up?
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Overall, this cam is very, very streetable.
It pulls hard. I had a C1 before this and the TSP 231 most def pulls harder longer.
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Thanks man. Not really worried about driveability. Just power...

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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Damian, I just realized what your post request was for... sorry I wasted your time. Doh.
I read 112-4 (112 thru 114 lsa).
Well, hope some info came out of it. Hey, I learned that my cam has +2 degrees built into it. Thanks!

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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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No prob, it gives me an idea. I am thinking with +4 it will make more TQ 200 rpm sooner than yours without sacrificing to much up top, which is exactly what I am looking for.

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Damian, I just realized what your post request was for... sorry I wasted your time. Doh.
I read 112-4 (112 thru 114 lsa).
Well, hope some info came out of it. Hey, I learned that my cam has +2 degrees built into it. Thanks!
I was curious about that cam you are running, since I have the c1 . What is the lope like compared to the c1? Is the streetabilaty down from the c1 and how much? Did the gas mileage change much on the hwy?
I am thinking of changing cams after the first of 04 but still looking around. It will be time for new valve springs anyways so I may try a new cam,although the c1 is awsome.
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1st of all, I agree the C1 is a great cam.

Lope: Nice, wicked. Much wilder than the C1. Very, very noticable over the C1's chop.

Streetability:
C1 bugs - occasional stall when approaching a light (very rarely happened though), other than that, drove like stock.
TSP231 bugs - Slight hunt when approaching stop lights (3 surges then finds idle) but this goes away as car warms. Does not like 15mph zones ( bucks even w/ 4.10's but driving habits/ gear selection has adjusted to resolve). Overall, the big cam is very streetable.

Mileage: I pay no attention to such thing.

I wanted this to be my final cam selection as I see Stage II heads on the horizon when the springs need changing. Am very happy with the selection.
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Mileage: I pay no attention to such thing.
Amen brother
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I get 23mpg and run 11's That is to good to let go. If I were to drop down to say 19mpg and only gain maybe a tenth or two, it would not be worth it jmo
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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Aint skeerd, the TSP 231 cam is capable of making 450+ rwhp. The C1, while being a GREAT all around cam, isn't going to make that kind of power. IMO, with the TSP cam and a retune, I think it's safe to say you'd see an easy 2 tenths & 2 mph. JMO from what I have seen.

FWIW, this cam made 413 rwhp through STOCK MANIFOLDS on a buddy's car. With longtubes, that would be a 445+ car.

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It's the cam that I am watching right now but I may get Allan Futral to choose one that will fit with no issues and retune after I install it. I am still undecided on which route I want to take this car as I am not going to put a cage in it. I want to get ahold of a Mustang to put a ls1 in and then go all out.
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josh you know i am running that 224/230 112+4 peaks right at 6-6200 and the torque curve is really flat. peaks about 3500 or so and carries it out really good. I'll scan that graph and email it to you one night.
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