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Old 08-25-2009, 08:12 AM
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ok been reading alot about cam's and found one that was interesting...I dont know if you guys every heard of chris but he's on youtube with just a 230/230 cam and made over 420+ hp that amazing. These engines are amazing at making so much hp just out of a cam...trust me wont be buying until I take everything into consideration. All the help you guys have been is great. I have to take a look into the f series cams but I think the ms4 is to big an I want my motor to at least last alittle longer.
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Originally Posted by nerisls1z
ok been reading alot about cam's and found one that was interesting...I dont know if you guys every heard of chris but he's on youtube with just a 230/230 cam and made over 420+ hp that amazing. These engines are amazing at making so much hp just out of a cam...trust me wont be buying until I take everything into consideration. All the help you guys have been is great. I have to take a look into the f series cams but I think the ms4 is to big an I want my motor to at least last alittle longer.
Predator-Z specced that cam for Chris so just pm him on here and he will shoot you the lobe #'s so you can call Comp or a vendor and order it.

That cam will put a on your face.
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im also in the market for a cam as well. this thread has pretty good info on it.

is there a cam to make 400 on cam only with out having to rev to 7000?

what about the torquer v2?
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Any of texas speeds torquer cams will get you to 400 rwhp with a 6 speed trans with headers and a good exhaust, LS6 intake, all the free mods, and a tune.
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One of our RapTR cams or our TRex will definitely get you over the 400rwhp mark!!!!
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pretty much any cam over the 228ish region will do it for ya. some people do it with less (talking stock heads). definitely an ls6 itnake, oil pump, bigger injectors, maybe a fuel pump, etc. just call a sponsor.
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Originally Posted by nerisls1z
ok been reading alot about cam's and found one that was interesting...I dont know if you guys every heard of chris but he's on youtube with just a 230/230 cam and made over 420+ hp that amazing. These engines are amazing at making so much hp just out of a cam....
One thing to be cautious of - Chris hasn't left any stones unturned in the search for more power. There aren't too many guys running 11.50's on stock internals with 3.23's.

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I'm pretty sure the cam uses XFI intake lobe # 3016 and XE-R exhaust lobe # 3725. Note also that Chris came in pretty close on PTV, enough that he retarded the cam a touch to increase the safety margin.

I'm not saying that you won't also have great results, only that they don't happen by accident. Attention to detail is the key to making big numbers with good manners.
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Originally Posted by nerisls1z
everyone has said that does he make own cams do you know if he has package deals or just cams?
I take down all your info and spec you a cam based on your mods and goals. You can then have the cam ground by one of my preferred vendors (board sponsors here). They have excellent package pricing so you won't pay too much.
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ok check this ok guys I was at the track last night an I met this guy with a 04 gto which has ls1 this guy just had ls6 springs , pushrods an a hot cam an only a 100 shot this guy was doing mid 11's all day stock interenal that really got my juices flowing if you know what I mean. On that note the best I did was 13.1 at 110 just on 273 gears I think my motor is running real strong cause man last night It was trying to rip my head off


hey patrick let me know what I need so you can spec a cam for me
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We have tons of engine dyno data from testing camshafts of different sizes and specs. Give us a call & we can discuss your goals. Just because a camshaft is custom spec'd for your car doesn't actually mean it's the best camshaft. We don't just spec camshafts for a customer we think will work, we spend hundreds & hundreds of hours dyno testing camshafts one after another looking for accurate data we can use to build the best possible camshafts for our customers.

We can build you a custom spec camshaft, the difference is we're using actual experience to spec you the perfect camshaft. If you'd like us to provide you with a bunch of dyno sheets comparing different camshaft ranges your looking at give us a call! We can definately help point you in a good direction.
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
We have tons of engine dyno data from testing camshafts of different sizes and specs. Give us a call & we can discuss your goals. Just because a camshaft is custom spec'd for your car doesn't actually mean it's the best camshaft. We don't just spec camshafts for a customer we think will work, we spend hundreds & hundreds of hours dyno testing camshafts one after another looking for accurate data we can use to build the best possible camshafts for our customers.

We can build you a custom spec camshaft, the difference is we're using actual experience to spec you the perfect camshaft. If you'd like us to provide you with a bunch of dyno sheets comparing different camshaft ranges your looking at give us a call! We can definately help point you in a good direction.
what would you suggest with what I have in my sig<I drive the car every other day an take the car to the track every week
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I didn't read through all these.. But check out Tick Performace's Polluter cam. Thats probably what I'll be getting.
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Originally Posted by nerisls1z
On that note the best I did was 13.1 at 110 just on 273 gears I think my motor is running real strong cause man last night It was trying to rip my head off
You must have a long trip through first gear. I see that you converted your car to an M6. Do you also do a lot of highway driving? Most people would not expect an M6 LS1 car to have 2.73's. If a rear gear change isn't part of your plan, that has a significant bearing on your camshaft selection. If it is, you may want to do that first, then pick a cam.
Originally Posted by nerisls1z
hey patrick let me know what I need so you can spec a cam for me
Click the link in his signature that says "For custom camshaft help press here."
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HUGE cams don't always equal the fastest track times. My cousins cam only car (228R) runs high 11s. Check out his race with the red car and read all the mods on both cars...he wasn't spraying either.

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As John posted above, our RapTR cam will get you there easily but I could also spec you a custom cam as well. There are many options out there. Some vendors here would have you believe they are the only shop that does R&D. I can assure you, all reputable shops test multiple combinations in various vehicles to come up with cam specs. We've been in business longer than most shops on this board and years longer than many. Its funny how everyone has their "OWN" lists of cams that look almost identical. Everyone has to start somewhere but we started from scratch. We've tested hundreds of camshafts over the years and have seen what works and what doesn't. It's easy to take someone else's hard work and R&D and try to improve upon it. While others are taking our 10 year old designs to compare against, we've gone in a completely different direction. As a matter of fact, over 70% of the cams we sell today are not even listed on our website (for various reasons...) Why not contact each vendor and see who gives you the best service and technical advice? Thunder has a long track record of providing excellent customer service with race proven parts and unparalled technical support. I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I'd rather lose a sale than sell you substandard product, PERIOD.

Also, as stated above, the biggest cam doesn't always make for the fastest car...

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You guys are right the biggest cam is not the best with alot of reading all day I think I have come closer to what I want which is mostly in the 230 area cause I was thinking to my self why put a huge cam just put a cam to give close to the power I want then just throw like a 100-150 shot of nos. The rear I wanna see how long it will go before I crack the hell out of It. Later plan to put a strange in it with 3.90 or 4.10's. Trust me looking around for the best deal I can get times are tough right now but If I want it get it.
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Originally Posted by nerisls1z
You guys are right the biggest cam is not the best with alot of reading all day I think I have come closer to what I want which is mostly in the 230 area cause I was thinking to my self why put a huge cam just put a cam to give close to the power I want then just throw like a 100-150 shot of nos. The rear I wanna see how long it will go before I crack the hell out of It. Later plan to put a strange in it with 3.90 or 4.10's. Trust me looking around for the best deal I can get times are tough right now but If I want it get it.
Install a girdle on your rearend and you can get into the 10s without blowing it out. It won't last forever in the 10s but it will make more passes than you would think.



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