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So I've heard from multiple vendors the Eagle Crank quality isn't all that great....

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Old 12-11-2003, 03:45 PM
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Question So I've heard from multiple vendors the Eagle Crank quality isn't all that great....

Is there any truth to this?

A few vendors I've talked to have said they have looked at these cranks and won't use them due to a lack of quality.
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...candidate for censorship..

definately a radar screen post....
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No Robert, you see, he didnt name his threads "Eagle Cranks Suck" and then proceed to ask if they really suck in the thread, like you would have. Anyway, you are not being singled out, as I've edited many thread titles in the past and I'm sure many more in the future. Your thread getting edited is not special in any way, so don't think it is. Please get a hold of yourself and just enjoy the tech talk, try to stay away from the sensationalist titles, and all will be well.

Now, back to the topic at hand...if you'd like to respond, PM me robert.
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Of course some are going to say that. I bet theres alot bigger profit on the $2000 cranks too. I have the eagle rods and dont have one problem with them. Lets just wait and see how they do in the field!
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Aidan out in California posted and said they looked great and it was ready to go, didn't require any machining and what not. I don't see how a forged 4340 piece of metal can be low quality. Anything is better than the cast crank, which is tough as nails already.
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
Of course some are going to say that. I bet theres alot bigger profit on the $2000 cranks too. I have the eagle rods and dont have one problem with them. Lets just wait and see how they do in the field!
The vendors (whose names I won't disclose) did mention the Eagle rods are great pieces and they will continue to use them. At one time or another they had hoped to be able to use these cranks in thier stroker packages (so they told me).
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Originally Posted by Cricket99SS
Aidan out in California posted and said they looked great and it was ready to go, didn't require any machining and what not. I don't see how a forged 4340 piece of metal can be low quality. Anything is better than the cast crank, which is tough as nails already.

Which is why I wonder why there are no cast stroker cranks.
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I heard just the opposite. I heard they were very well built.

All LS1 cranks should have been 600-800 bucks from the beginning. It was purely monopolistic pricing IMO.

Who can argue with them though if they were the only games in town at that point?
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 360
I heard just the opposite. I heard they were very well built.

All LS1 cranks should have been 600-800 bucks from the beginning. It was purely monopolistic pricing IMO.

Who can argue with them though if they were the only games in town at that point?

Isnt EVERYTHING for the LSx motors price gouged? IE.. $1000+ headers
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Since these cranks have been manufactured in at least one batch at the factory, but apparently none have been shipped to customers because the manufacturor is waiting for new shipping boxes, it seems like a loaded question.

My guess is that no one besides the manufacturor will really know until a few have been shipped and are up and running...

It would be interesting to know if the vendors mentioned above received pre-production cranks which may be different from the cranks that are supposed to ready for shippment.
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I'm pretty sure some have shipped but, due to poor boxes they arrived with damage to the reluctor wheel. That is why Eagle is getting new shipping boxes.

Maybe the cranks that the quality is being judged by were damaged in shipment and it was assumed that the damage was lack of production quality?
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I run an eagle crank and rods in my blown mustang.. I have really put that thing thru hell too. I've never had a problem with the crank or rods. I pulled the engine a couple of weeks ago to do rings, bearings, and a general freshen up and the crank is still beautiful... I wish someone from the board would hurry and get one and report back their FIRST HAND impressions of it.
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I am sure that the Eagle cranks for LS1's are jsut fine. However we tried to run Eagle cranks in our dirt late model two years ago. These were high compression motors pushing over 700 horsepower. We kept tearing up motors, a motor would only last us about 2 races or 50 laps and we would break a crank or spin a bearing. Changed cranks this year, ran all season, about 1700 laps and didn't tear up a thing, we finally broke a rocker arm. Not saying that Eagle cranks are not good for LS1's, they just wouldn't hold the horsepower that we were throwing at them
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i am going to go with an 3.90 stroke eagle crank.. i was thinking about getting a different make/namebrand rod because i am worried about snaping a supposely less quality H-beam forged rod. i.e. Eagle. but would love to hear more on it so that i can make a better judgement. vendors will sell what they stock.. and having a expensive crank laying around the shop don't help make money.
Old 12-11-2003, 06:06 PM
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I'll be running the Eagle 4.0 crank in early Febuary.Only looking for a total of 600rwhp with spray and I'm sure it will take it.As said before these LS1 parts are just priced too high for what they are.Also found that Grand National parts are more expensive than LS1's too.
Old 12-11-2003, 06:42 PM
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Not an LS1, but Im at 760rwhp with my LT1, using Eagle crank and rods.

Over 700rwhp for the last 8k miles, and over 600rwhp for the 6k miles before that with a supercharged setup.

There are definitely better cranks out there, but Eagle is a great value.
Old 12-11-2003, 06:58 PM
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I always felt that Eagle products were good for your "average" person (really....how many of us will ever see 700+ HP.....).....if your going to go way out there (lots of boost, nitrous, etc....) then you need to look for something more heavy duty.
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I just hope it drives the price down on new and used lunati cranks. We have needed this for a long time.
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If a stock cast crank can support 700 RWHP surely a forged crank by any company can match a stock cranks structural integrity.
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I read on a mustang board that eagle parts are made in china and finished in america. Any truth to this?



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