Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:27 PM
  #1  
robiferretti's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: nj
Default Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)

Background:
For those who dont follow my DVD series, I own two rather fast toys a 2001 786 rwhp corvette and a 921 rwhp 98 supra.




Current situation:
So its been a long few weeks, turns out the guy who built the forged motor in my supra built a string of bad engines, of which mine was one of them. So as I was just pumping 31 lbs of boost through my car for a few tanks of gas I spun a bearing. Car is now down for a month being rebuilt. I was debating going to a stroker, but we haven't heard back from crower regarding this.



I am taking this opportunity to put a beefier clutch in and some upgraded pistons for even higher boost. (I lost the forged engine after only 600 miles).

Since I got the supra running in October I kept the vette over at a local shop for a few months waiting for them to fix their tune at their leisure. (Since they last tuned it the car was breaking up badly over 5500 rpms). After my supra went down with the motor issue I called up and asked to pick up the car, they warned me it needed a new battery. I showed up a few days later and as soon as I started driving it home, I knew something was not right, the engine didn't feel right at all and the exhaust note was way off. While driving the car wanted to stall in between any shift, it was raining so I couldn't really push the car at all to try and further diagnose a power problem. When I arrived back at my warehouse i noticed a cloud of smoke I was leaving behind me. Called up the shop who said they were coming out the next day to take the car back and figure it out.
Next morning I swapped the battery and started the car up, white burnt smelling smoke filled my shop within minutes. So I drove it over to another local mechanic. Within a few hours I got compression numbers to find out the engine was down 3 clynders and motor was blown. Upon tear down there were holes in 3 of the pistons on the DS of the motor, so apparently they blew my engine up at the shop and didn't bother to tell me until I called to get the car 3 months after they drove it away form me.






Sucks but it was an opportunity to swap the car from supercharged to turbo like i've been planning to do when teh opportunity presented itself. Decided to go with the Hinson Single Turbo kit.





here is the before picture of the engine bay



So, long story short, its shaping up to be an expensive January for me. I have to have the cars up and running by the Philadelphia Auto Show at the end of the month, i'll update the thread with pictures and details as they come up.
Attached Thumbnails Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-img_2968c.jpg   Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-sunoco.jpg   Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-img_0411.jpg   Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-photo1.jpg   Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-photo2.jpg  

Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-photo4.jpg   Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-engine-bay.jpg   Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-enginestand1.jpg   Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-c5turbokit2.jpg   Simultaneous Builds (with pictures this time)-engine.jpg  

Reply
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:40 PM
  #2  
sw07gt's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 232
Likes: 41
Default

That sucks and is awesome at the same time. Nice rides. What's getting done to the yellow Gallardo?
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:44 PM
  #3  
Trans Am Jam's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,819
Likes: 0
From: Jersey
Default

that does awfully suck.. but now you can try different routes and venture out w/ different builds. Jersey represent
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:53 PM
  #4  
robiferretti's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: nj
Default

Originally Posted by sw07gt
That sucks and is awesome at the same time. Nice rides. What's getting done to the yellow Gallardo?
engine rebuild. was blowing through 2 quarts of oil a weekend.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2010 | 07:27 AM
  #5  
allngn_c5's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 6,524
Likes: 1
From: Western Burbs of Detroit
Default

I feel your pain. I spent a ton of cash between October 2008 and September 2009.

Had a 402 built by a big named sponsor and was unhappy. Talked to them about making some changes to it and the quotes were out of this world. Took it to another shop (Vengeance Racing) and changed heads, exhaust, and cam, then with Mikes tuning she made a **** load more power (see link in sig for full story) and drives like stock. Later I smoked the clutch, then broke the tranny output shaft at the track with torpedoed my diff. After all that I had to swap out a broken rocker. She's mint now but damn what a mess. I'm staying away from the racetrack, can't afford it. I totally feel ya on cars being down too. My DD was down and so was my backup. With snow on the ground the corvette wasn't an option. All is good now though, other then my backup still being down LOL.

Hopefully when the smoke clears, no pun intended everything will be perfect for you. Good luck !!
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:26 AM
  #6  
Mark1si's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis
Default

Talk about bad luck!! From the looks of the toys you should share the love .
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:32 AM
  #7  
abnaasefmb's Avatar
Teching In
15 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Default

Man that kind of **** poor craftsmanship and lack of pride in one’s own work, really pisses me off. These are the shysters that give all of us whom work on cars a bad name. I would out them in a heartbeat, reason being is they built / tuned it, they should get full credit for it! I would bet they would be claiming it, if it ran the way it was supposed to and made big power, so they have earned it. Build looks solid! Wrap that down pipe. Looking forward to getting those longtube headers for you
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 10:16 PM
  #8  
BarneyMobile's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 789
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by robiferretti
engine rebuild. was blowing through 2 quarts of oil a weekend.
Man that sux big time. BTW, I have all your DVD's see you guys at the Philly Auto Show.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 05:06 PM
  #9  
brianhinson's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
From: Birmingham, AL
Default

Looking good, Rob. Let us know if you need any making your deadline.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 06:04 PM
  #10  
Summerwolf's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,060
Likes: 1
Default

More pics please.....this is pure car bliss......

Well, in a way.

Good thing you have the money for this, and NICE TOYS
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2010 | 01:43 PM
  #11  
fstz06's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default

Hey Rob, any updates? SS 5 was great too!
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2010 | 09:31 AM
  #12  
robiferretti's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: nj
Default

Originally Posted by fstz06
Hey Rob, any updates? SS 5 was great too!
Updates with pictures will be coming after I get back from the Philly Autoshow on the 8th.

All Supra parts are in and engine is being built.

All Corvette parts are in and engine is being built.

Everything should be back together in the next 2 weeks.

Glad you enjoyed the DVD.

-Rob
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:22 PM
  #13  
357i's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 204
Likes: 1
From: Richmond, VA
Default

I have a hard time feeling bad because the outcome is so awesome
Reply
Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:04 PM
  #14  
02*C5's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,704
Likes: 303
From: Az
Default

feel for ya my wife had a shop in Texas do a H/C package for me in my last deployment. I got the car back and I could not pull on a stock 99 C5. They guy did a shitty job, I had to break his whole work down put in a new cam, heads and the right lifters and wala wouldn't you know it. Good luck hope they run as good as they look.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2010 | 09:45 PM
  #15  
fstz06's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default

updates
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 02:51 PM
  #16  
S10xGN's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,782
Likes: 7
From: Port Neches, TX
Default

Originally Posted by robiferretti

Sucks but it was an opportunity to swap the car from supercharged to turbo like i've been planning to do when teh opportunity presented itself. Decided to go with the Hinson Single Turbo kit.



Got any more info on this? Looks like it would fit under my hood...
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 02:58 PM
  #17  
nastychevelle's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 934
Likes: 1
From: troy, IL
Default

rob your dvd's are awesome! make sure to build that supra so you can beat racer X this time!
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:44 PM
  #18  
robiferretti's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: nj
Default

Originally Posted by S10xGN
Got any more info on this? Looks like it would fit under my hood...
www.hinsonsupercars.com
its his single turbo kit fo the c5 vette.

nastychevelle - The supra will win next time around, even as is the supra would have reeled in and won had we passed 140 mph.

- Updates with pictures to come soon. Dropped another 170 lbs out of the car. I can eat more twinkies now and not feel to bad.
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2010 | 08:36 PM
  #19  
1krr's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
From: Bourbonnais IL
Default

im extremely jealous. but do feel for your engine woes. good luck!
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2010 | 03:18 AM
  #20  
Mikeshotrodshop's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Default

Sorry to hear about the Supra engine. From the picture of the left side bearing, it appears as though your engine builder did not set your bearing clearances. This can be seen by the parting line bearing wear; which is null. Typically, the babbitt will wear the least amount (but some) in that area due to the reciprocating motion, but this seems to be extreme. This can be adjusted by machining the big end of the rod in a certain way.

I've also seen this type of bearing failure from detonation; flattens the heck out of them fast and then they grab the crank.
Some inside info - King bearings has been doing studies on bearing wear and causes. For instance: when a crank is machined and polished, there are tiny “fingers” that will grab the babbitt and pile the shavings inside the grooves. Although this cannot be seen by the naked eye, it does happen. This problem stems from how the crank is polished and machined. If it is machined with the rotation you will have less of a chance for the “fingers” to grab the babbitt material and cause premature bearing wear. However, in the field this is hard to regulate, so King has been redesigning their babbitt material in an effort to minimize this type of wear.



Best of luck on the rebuild...

Mike
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:05 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE