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Old 12-21-2003, 07:53 PM
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Question 230/230 114lsa too much for A4??

Thinking about buying a replacement motor for my 98 in sig. blew it up a few months back. I can get a good deal on a 99 LS1 with 38,000 miles on it, its got a comp cams 230/230 .578 114lsa cam in it. I plan on doing the basic intake mods to compliment my exhaust, and possibly headers. Is this cam too much for a stock headed A4 car? How will drivability be? I know I'll definitely need some tuning. What kind of power numbers do you think i will put down and what kind of track times and traps should I expect???
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get an ls6 intake or wait for the lsx results, definately will want some LT's, stock manifolds will choke the **** out of that cam, then dump the flowmaster and get some more bolt ons. tuning will be key, guys run the g5x2 cams in a4's so yours will be fine. 114lsa will aid in its street manners. get some more bolt ons and tune and that setup should be fine.
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Originally Posted by jrp
get an ls6 intake or wait for the lsx results, definately will want some LT's, stock manifolds will choke the **** out of that cam, then dump the flowmaster and get some more bolt ons. tuning will be key, guys run the g5x2 cams in a4's so yours will be fine. 114lsa will aid in its street manners. get some more bolt ons and tune and that setup should be fine.


i 2nd that
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and as i said on the other board get a new TC first and foremost.
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thanks for the quick replies guys, kinda gotta get the engine before the TC, considering the one ive got in there now is shot to hell, and since the cam is already in the engine....guess ill have to go with that combo first.
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With a stock converter and manifolds you will have the slowest ls1 ever. W/O a converter it will be a dog under 4k..You might want to see if someone will swap you a tr224 before you drop it in,it would be better for your situation
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I know ill def. need a converter, How do you like that TCI3500 youve got? decent? i know theyre fairly low priced.
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first without a convertor, it will feel terrible. get that convertor, motor situated, and tuning together. that cam isnt bad with good tuning. i run a 230/230 on a 111 lsa and it is pretty aggressive. i run a 4000 yank. awesome power combo, esp on the street. for a daily driver, i would do a much smaller cam with ofcourse the tuning and convertor. with that cam, anything under a 3800 rpm unit will be disappointing.
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anything under 3800rpm will be dissapointing even with the TC? or are we still speaking pre TC, damn, too bad the cam is already in the motor. It will be a PITA to swap it out for another one.
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Originally Posted by BRIAN98Z28
anything under 3800rpm will be dissapointing even with the TC? or are we still speaking pre TC, damn, too bad the cam is already in the motor. It will be a PITA to swap it out for another one.
a cam swap is a piece of cake :shrug:, if you really want a new cam its not much trouble.
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Definitly need a converter first.With the raised idle speed for the Cam you'll be fighting the brakes trying to hold the car at a stop.
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jrp, i know the actual swapping of the cam into the engine will be a piece of cake with the motor out, I should have phrased that differently. What i meant was going through finding another cam and trying to sell this one will be a PITA. Ive been without my car for a few months now and my fuse is about done. I bought a parts car the other day for the motor, and it turns out it was stolen so it had to be repo'd by the cops and i was out some money. So you can understand I really want to just get the damn motor in the car so it will be driveable.
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How much performance loss would I be looking at if i went with say a TR224 cam over this one? And what lsa 112 or 114? How would the driveability be with this cam until I am able to get a converter? Much better than the 230 cam?
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i just meant that without a bigger convertor, under 3800 will suck. with a convertor and that cam, the combo will kick ***. dont be afraid of a bigger convertor on the street.
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Ok, so how slow will the damn car be without a converter in it with this 230 cam? Slower than a stock LS1? Stock LT1?
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Originally Posted by BRIAN98Z28
How much performance loss would I be looking at if i went with say a TR224 cam over this one? And what lsa 112 or 114? How would the driveability be with this cam until I am able to get a converter? Much better than the 230 cam?
http://www.ls1camaro.net/freehosting...comparison.jpg

ask jason99ta for the specifics. everything was the same except the cam swaps.
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Originally Posted by BRIAN98Z28
Ok, so how slow will the damn car be without a converter in it with this 230 cam? Slower than a stock LS1? Stock LT1?
w/o a TC it'll just take forever to get into the powerband, thats why it'll come off slow.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Definitly need a converter first.With the raised idle speed for the Cam you'll be fighting the brakes trying to hold the car at a stop.
I agree!
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i have had friends with head and cam 222 cams. from stop to about 3500 it was a bit slower than stock, after 3500 it was sick. it wouldnt burn the tires much off the line, then hit its power zone of 3500 and THEN spin the tires! lol. when you get a stall you will realize you should have done it earlier.




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