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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Hey guys, I just picked up a set of stock LS2 pistons that I plan on swapping into my '02 LQ4 to bump the compression up for the motor. I was just wondering if it's just as easy as taking the LQ4 pistons out, and putting the LS2's in, and use the stock LQ4 rods, or if there's anything else that will have to be done. Also, will the rotating assembly need to be rebalanced with the LS2 pistons?
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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The rod length is the same on both motors. I might weight match them a little if you had the means to do it but the whole rotating assembly doesn't need balancing.
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you may want to pick up a set of the newer floating pin rods to go with the floating piston to make the change even easier, however it is do-able without.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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you may want to pick up a set of the newer floating pin rods to go with the floating piston to make the change even easier, however it is do-able without.
I'll try and see if I can find the newer rods for a decent price then. I've heard the newer rods are a little better anyways. I planned on trying to pick up some pistons and rods together, but couldn't find a good enough deal, so I just got the pistons by themselves. Will the newer rods work with an older crank just fine? And I should be able to just use the piston rings from my LQ4 pistons, couldn't I? They're still brand new. The motor was never ran after the rebuild.
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most lq9s have the floating pins, and anything 04+ should as well. they will work with an older crank just fine, as they only changed the reluctor wheel to the 58x on the newer cranks. The rings should swap right over, just make sure they back on the right way.
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Alright. I found a guy selling some rods out of an '05 LS2 Vette, with less than 5k on them, for $80, so I'm going to try and get those. Seems like a pretty decent price.
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Be careful. I believe you need to use a LQ9 crank as well. The full floater rods are heavier requiring a heavier crank to balance. Also, I believe the pin diameters are different on the LQ9 and LQ4 pistons because of the floating arrangement. Research it, see what you find out.
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Be careful. I believe you need to use a LQ9 crank as well. The full floater rods are heavier requiring a heavier crank to balance. Also, I believe the pin diameters are different on the LQ9 and LQ4 pistons because of the floating arrangement. Research it, see what you find out.
That's what I was afraid of. If they aren't just a direct swap, I'll probably just end up reselling them. The compression bump isn't big enough to spend the kinda money I'd have to, to make them work.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Rizzle
you may want to pick up a set of the newer floating pin rods to go with the floating piston to make the change even easier, however it is do-able without.
How is it do-able without? I may end up taking that route, so I can still run the flat-tops, but not have to worry about pretty much changing my whole rotating assembly.
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It can be done, but at high RPM's there will be some harmonics going on that may shorten the life of your rotating assembly without it properly balanced. If it were me, I'd pop for a set of 243's for around $400. CR problem solved. No swapping out of the rotating assembly. Alternatively, you could mill your heads if you're not running a wicked cam. That's my $.02.
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^^^^I believe he is referring to converting the non-floating rod to floating without bushing the small end of the rod, which would be pricey. It can be done without a bushing, just have a reputable machine shop fit the pins and insert an oil hole.
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I think I'll just end up sticking with my LQ4 pistons, and just have the lower compression. The 9.4:1 compression doesn't bother me all that much. Makes it better for boost later on down the road. There's no way I'll get rid of my L92 heads for LS6's. The extra flow is worth the drop in compression. With the cams I'm looking into, I should be in the high 400's at the wheels with those heads and an LS3 intake.
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I would simply mill the L92 heads and flycut the pistons if needed for cam clearance.
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you can get the ls2 pistons put on the press fit rods. Same way the stock pistons are on there. Just dont put the circlips on the pistons after. The only part that could be of any concern is a weight difference between the dished and flat top pistons, but I cant see that being much. If you can weigh your lq4 piston/rod assembly, subtract around 610 grams, youll know how much the stocker weighs.
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I believe the pin diameters are different. .945 for press fit, .943 for floating. Check Carcraft archives, I think they put LQ9 pistons on press fit rods. If I remember, they had to modify the small end to get it to work.
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Would a 59cc on a LQ4 and a good cam make 450hp
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