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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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well thanks, live and learn I guess. only thing I have is a 204 piece craftsman socket set and a hanes
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If you plan to replace rings, you need to have a machine shop bore it. They put fine cross hatch lines in the bore and they are used to get the rings shaved down a tiny bit so they fit the bore perfectly. If you dont then you will have some oil consuption issues. Also make sure to have the rest of the block machines also. New bearings, seals, ect. ect. If you plan to use old heads have them checked and machined too. 85% of all oil consuption comes from valve seats. At least this is what my instructor tell us in class =) And if you get it bored 30 over you might pick up 5 CI lol
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They can do a magnet test on ur heads too. It will find tiny cracks you cant see with ur eyes. If these cracks get to one of the coolant passages then you will have perfectly steemed cylenders =)
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thats good info , I did not know that. If I trash this block, I think next i'll just go crate but until I'm rich, no-time soon
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btw . . . . . . you can't bore a LS1 block have fun with the rebuild and put in a bigger crank if you want to up the displacement but you can't bore it because the walls are already too thin. a 6.0 iron block=success but a 5.7 aluminum block=fail
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lq9 set-up?
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or lq4
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yep either LQ4 or LQ9 gen 3 will be easier to swap things and work with than gen 4. you can bore and stroke those without a problem (if you go through a smart person or company) a LQ4 with a 4.000" crank gives you a 402, boring it .030" over gives you a 408 i belive
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Yep you just gotta dig in, if theres something you don't know, theres plenty of guys that do on here that you can ask. As far as bottom end goes, do a compression test atleast to make sure your rings are still in decent shape. When i did mine my compression test was excellent @ 146k miles. I pulled my heads off and could still see the hone marks n the cylinder walls. If you have a healthy motor now, and it hasn't had the tar beat out of it, you will probbaly be fine with heads/cam. Just make sure you do your research if your doing it yourself.
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I hear ya on he if it aint broke. read another member did H/C swap at 169,5xx and at like 300 miles later his engine hydro locked. hate to see something like that. I may take it to do compression check or leakdown. Just to make sure my block is worthy? is it expensive?
Your block should be just fine. MAYBE

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well thanks, live and learn I guess. only thing I have is a 204 piece craftsman socket set and a hanes
Then Harbor Freight is your best friend.

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Besides, you only need the basic hand tools for most things. For everything else, there's Harbor Freight.
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Good luck man. Like everyone has said, you just gotta do your homework then get out there and DO WORK and learn. This board is an awesome resource. it's getting me through my first engine build.
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BTW LQ4 and LQ9 are the same blocks, difference is the stock pistons from what i've read
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Originally Posted by TechCam97
Then Harbor Freight is your best friend.

Harbor Freight Tools
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Besides, you only need the basic hand tools for most things. For everything else, there's Harbor Freight.
must be a tool place???

yeah I know what I need, already purchased heads ( 241's ) but have patriot gold springs with the lift I need, freshly machined. I've did my homework on the mods to run this thing safely, my buddy just knows where to turn the bolts lol

and thnx for lq4 and 9 info, my buddy keeps talking about his dads lq9 in his SS
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Originally Posted by blitzace12
If you plan to replace rings, you need to have a machine shop bore it. They put fine cross hatch lines in the bore and they are used to get the rings shaved down a tiny bit so they fit the bore perfectly. If you dont then you will have some oil consuption issues. Also make sure to have the rest of the block machines also. New bearings, seals, ect. ect. If you plan to use old heads have them checked and machined too. 85% of all oil consuption comes from valve seats. At least this is what my instructor tell us in class =) And if you get it bored 30 over you might pick up 5 CI lol
Boring the cylinders does not leave a fine cross hatch, that is what honing is for. Boring uses a carbide cutter to cut out larger amounts of material. Honing uses stones, taking out considerably less material, while leaving a proper cross hatch with the right process of stones.

Valve seats won't cause oil consumption isses, they have nothing to do with oil. I think you meant valve seals, they can cause oil consumption isses, as well as guides.

Personally, I wouldn't build an engine for the first time, without someone who knows what they're doing...not just someone who says they know what they're doing. There is a big difference there.

Depending on how far you want to go on your rebuild, it may be better to have a professional shop perform the work.
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Originally Posted by offroadfury6
must be a tool place???

yeah I know what I need, already purchased heads ( 241's ) but have patriot gold springs with the lift I need, freshly machined. I've did my homework on the mods to run this thing safely, my buddy just knows where to turn the bolts lol

and thnx for lq4 and 9 info, my buddy keeps talking about his dads lq9 in his SS
and they should be at your house on friday i believe an iron block is the way to go if you want to have a stroker or have a stroker and run spray or a blower
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Wait, your friend is a "good mechanic" and he thinks the "timing chain is off?" Wow. You 2 are going to have quite a growing experience working on your first LS1 together.
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Wait, your friend is a "good mechanic" and he thinks the "timing chain is off?" Wow. You 2 are going to have quite a growing experience working on your first LS1 together.
well he is my age and he put in his own fuel pump, T-rex cammed his car, put his own heads on, pushrods, HP tuned his car, injectors, NOS system, spec 4 clutch on his SS, I got faith in him. Sure knows alot more than me

yeah the heads r in route, they will sit for about a month though lol...**** it, 346ci is plenty for me right now, I just want a nasty street car, If I ever wanna go full drag, then the iron blocks
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it doesn't cost that much to go the iron route, call SDPC at 1800-456-0211 and ask for tim
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it doesn't cost that much to go the iron route, call SDPC at 1800-456-0211 and ask for tim
thats what I hear . cheaper!
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