Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Advancing Torquer 2 Cam

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 08:14 AM
  #1  
-T-'s Avatar
-T-
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default Advancing Torquer 2 Cam

I was reading around about advancing the Torquer V2 cam that i have in my LS6. A couple people suggested 2*, and a couple suggesting 4* including PatG. But haven't found any real world results.

Has anyone done this and have good results? Im about to swap out my crank pulley with a UD pulley and this would be a good time to throw an adjustable cam gear in there and advance it.

My Torquer V2 is on a 113 LSA
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 08:17 AM
  #2  
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 17
From: BFE
Default

what
lsa/icl is your TV2?
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 09:49 AM
  #3  
-T-'s Avatar
-T-
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
what
lsa/icl is your TV2?
I want to say that my icl was 110. My cam card is at home so I'm not 100% sure

Last edited by -T-; Apr 2, 2010 at 10:06 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 10:08 AM
  #4  
-T-'s Avatar
-T-
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default




here is the cam card
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:05 AM
  #5  
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 17
From: BFE
Default

Your cam is on a 113 LSA and 110 ICL

That means it is allready advanced 3*. What I would do is degree it at that ICL, but I would not advance it further. I would raise the compression if added lower rpm performance is required.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:15 AM
  #6  
-T-'s Avatar
-T-
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

You can call me a newb when it comes to degreeing cams but, I lined it up dot to dot on install and bolted her back together. Are you saying that I am 3* retarded right now?
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:20 AM
  #7  
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 17
From: BFE
Default

Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Your cam is on a 113 LSA and 110 ICL

That means it is allready advanced 3*. What I would do is degree it at that ICL, but I would not advance it further. I would raise the compression if added lower rpm performance is required.
How did you read retarded?????
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:27 AM
  #8  
BrianC98Z28's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 954
Likes: 0
From: Texarkana,TX
Default

No not 3* retarded now. Dot to Dot which is the most common method is not always at the spec'd ICL sometimes its close but not exact where it needs to be for max performance of that desired cam.I.E different cams for different setups. Since its on a 110ICL and on a 113LSA its already got 3* advance ground in. So if you were to advance it any more theoretically if you went 4 youd actually be at 7* advanced now. Pat G prolly recommended 4 not knowing the exact specs of the cam if I had to guess. What I just said is pretty much in a nutshell of the whole picture but predator and pat g could go into even more technical specs.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:30 AM
  #9  
$750 L98's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 723
Likes: 1
From: Round Rock, Texas
Default

Finally some one with a TV2 with similar specs to my XER281HR lol, mine has the 3* advance ground in as well. Honestly it has good grunt low down, just not as much as I would expect a "cammed" car to have - it does make it easy to drive in traffic though.

How do you like it? Do you have any vids of it?
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:41 AM
  #10  
-T-'s Avatar
-T-
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

I like the cam. Just want a little more out of it. Vids are at home. I'll try and get one uploaded. I was just reading on the cam and found those threads. So basically I want to get a degree kit and install it on 109 icl to make 4* overall advance???
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:58 AM
  #11  
$750 L98's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 723
Likes: 1
From: Round Rock, Texas
Default

I think it would depend on the range where you want "more". If you want to move the power-band higher up, advance it, if you want to make more mid range/low end, retard the cam. (generally speaking if I remember right).

On mine, which I believe is installed dot to dot, power doesn't really come in until about 3k rpm or more.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 01:27 PM
  #12  
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 17
From: BFE
Default

As I mentionned, no need to advance further. Try to raise your compression. Every 1 point in compression raise is about 3>4% power increase.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 04:06 PM
  #13  
-T-'s Avatar
-T-
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

so being that i installed dot to dot... do you think its worth the money to buy a degree kit and ensure i have max lift at 110* of crank revolution? Or should i just leave it alone?
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 04:18 PM
  #14  
-T-'s Avatar
-T-
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Also... as far as compression ratio goes, I think stock is 10.5CR from the 64.4cc chambers. If i go with a cometic gasket say at around .040, how much will that raise my compression from stock thickness MLS?

I think i read somewhere that every .005" you move the head closer to the deck is worth 1cc of chamber size decrease. Does this hold any water?
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 04:29 PM
  #15  
01ssreda4's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (96)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 24,241
Likes: 89
From: Turnin' Wrenches Infractions: 005
Default

Originally Posted by $750 L98
Finally some one with a TV2 with similar specs to my XER281HR lol, mine has the 3* advance ground in as well. Honestly it has good grunt low down, just not as much as I would expect a "cammed" car to have - it does make it easy to drive in traffic though.

How do you like it? Do you have any vids of it?
I thought retarding the cam moved the band higher and advancing it moved it lower. It works likes this for ignition timing as well. I remember turning distributors and it changes the whole way the motor pulls, from throttle response off idle and all the way up to redline.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 04:45 PM
  #16  
SOMbitch's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 3
Default

Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
I thought retarding the cam moved the band higher and advancing it moved it lower. It works likes this for ignition timing as well. I remember turning distributors and it changes the whole way the motor pulls, from throttle response off idle and all the way up to redline.
You are correct and buying an adjustable gear set is a waste to gain 1* of advance IMO....
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:26 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE