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Old 05-05-2010, 11:21 AM
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Looking to get an El Torro cam. The specs that Pred Z gave me was 230/230 612/592 111-1. He never told me what lobes it uses. From what I see on here they are xfi xer. So when I order it I tell them 230/230 612/592 111-1 xfi/xer lobes? I tried asking Pred Z but I'm guessing he is very busy because I haven't heard back from him. Thanks guys.
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Yes, XFI/XER. I believe he specs them 111 +2, though (109 ICL).
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yup xfi intake and xer exhaust also 111+2
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I pm'd Pred Z and these are the specs he gave me just not the lobe info. 230/230 612/592 111-1. I have 243's milled .028 with stock mls gaskets,maybe that is why he said 111-1? Hopefully I will hear back from him before I try and order a cam.
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the el torro is what I listed I am the one who proved it...see sig...if you want an alteration of that then it wouldn't be called the el torro...I would recommend a little more exhaust duration if you have heads
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I see your car hauls ***. I've seen you when I have done searches about the el torro. I'm not wanting an alteration of the cam. I'm just trying to get the needed info so I can order one. I pm'd him about the el torro cam and told him my setup and those are the specs he gave me. Doesn't matter to me if it 111-1 or 111+2. The 111+2 should give me better low end. Thanks for the input chrs1313.
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it's def. 111+2, i ordered the same cam but like chris1313 said i got more exh. duration because i am installing so stock 243's and plan on putting better heads on next winter. Figured just set it up now for that now instead of having to buy another cam
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Originally Posted by RBCUDA
I pm'd Pred Z and these are the specs he gave me just not the lobe info. 230/230 612/592 111-1. I have 243's milled .028 with stock mls gaskets,maybe that is why he said 111-1? Hopefully I will hear back from him before I try and order a cam.
If you want that cam with 4* more exhaust duration I can post or PM you the lobe #'s tomorrow when I get to work just let me know. The only difference is my exhaust lobe is 234/.598 Otherwise the same XFI/X-ER cam.... Mine is also a 111+2 BTW.....
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That would be great if you don't mind. Can't hurt I guess, a little more exh dur will just help to get the spent gasses out. I'm running stock 243 heads just had them milled .028 to boost the compression. Not sure if I'll change the heads again or not. But I didn't plan on changing the cam again so soon, so who knows. How many miles you think the valve springs will last with this cam? I'm runing Patriot dual gold's. Are you having to run two different lengths of push rods with the diff lobes? Thanks
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Are you having to run two different lengths of push rods with the diff lobes? Thanks[/QUOTE]

From what i have been told is no and to check the length that you need. I ordered 7.350's with mine because there is another guy on here with same cam, heads, and lifters as what i have and thats what he is running and has no issues..
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Originally Posted by 99T/AMAN
Are you having to run two different lengths of push rods with the diff lobes? Thanks
From what i have been told is no and to check the length that you need. I ordered 7.350's with mine because there is another guy on here with same cam, heads, and lifters as what i have and thats what he is running and has no issues..[/QUOTE]



No the base circles were close enough that on the LS7 lifters it was fine. I am sure with some lifters with a narrower ideal preload would have prolly needed a different PR setup. My heads at the time were PRC 2.5's unmilled and I ran 7.4's for about 30K no issues..

I will post lobe #'s tomorrow.....
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The specs I gave you are to get a better margin PTV on intake with your setup.

Grinding specs are:

Intake lobe # 3016R
Exhaust lobe # 3725R
111 LSA
112 ICL
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Thanks Pred Z. What will these specs do compared to your orig specs, move the powerband up in rpm's a couple hundred?
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
The specs I gave you are to get a better margin PTV on intake with your setup.

Grinding specs are:

Intake lobe # 3016R
Exhaust lobe # 3725R
111 LSA
112 ICL

haha you beat me Pred.....Haven't seen you around here much lately....

FYI the 234 X-ER exaust lobe is 3727R
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So that would make it 230/234 612/598 with that exhaust lobe? Any thoughts how much that will move the powerband running 111-1 over 111+2. I will run what Pred recommended, but I am just wondering.
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I ended up running a .025" longer PR on the intake than exhaust.
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Post up your dyno results when you get em. Im thinking of getting this cam myself in the future. Good luck man.
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I'll post them when I get it tuned. I'm going to install this cam some pacesetter headers and a better timing chain. I did the LS2 upgrade but it is loose as hell. I'm still wondering what the difference in the powerbands will be between 111-1 and 111+2.
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Ordered the cam on Friday. Hopefully I will have it in about a week. Should be a big change over my TR224 cam by the time I add headers with the el torro.
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Got the cam, pacesetter long tubes and the catted y pipe on. I've had it together for a while just been playing with the tune and push rods to try and get the valve train a little more quiet. Got the tune close with efi live. Man this thing pulls hard. Big change over the TR224 cam. Has a nice sounding idle too. I go Monday to get it dyno tuned. I hope it puts down some good numbers, sure pulls like it should.


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