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Old May 8, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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I'm going to be throwing some parts at a buddys 01 Vette, He narrowed his cam choices to either the TSP TorquerV.3 (231/234 .643"/.598" 111 LSA) or the TSP Tsunami ( 235/240, .654"/.609", 111 LSA) I'm going to do a set of PRC stage 2.5 LS6 heads and a FAST intake W/ 90mm TB at the same time

My fear is that the Tsunami is a little to big for him. His argument is that the car is only a weekend warrior not a DD so he thinks he will be fine with a "Big" Cam. but he mostly drives the car at cruises, road courses and SCCS sports car events. He would also not want to flycut. I know he will enjoy a better all around grind rather than a loping monster of a cam.

I also know there will be suggestions to get a custom cam. and that's fine but I'm doing all the leg work for a friends car I would rather just pic a proven grind off the shelf at the expense of a few HP


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Old May 8, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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I know he will enjoy a better all around grind rather than a loping monster of a cam.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Both are to big in my book. But its up to him ,let him put one of those in then you can tell him I told you so

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Old May 8, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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tqr v3 here
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Any consideration for the v2?
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Old May 8, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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small cams r for girls!!!!
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Old May 8, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Any consideration for the v2?
Yes actually, I put the V.2 in a guys 02 SS and I liked it, as did he. I also didn't have to fly cut the which I am sure will have to happen with the tsunami and I'm not so sure on the V.3
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small cams r for girls!!!!
I'm with this guy the bigger the cam the faster it will get down the track. a smaller cam might have more low end and feel faster but a bigger one will run faster. I say Tsunami don't be scared
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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I'm with this guy the bigger the cam the faster it will get down the track. a smaller cam might have more low end and feel faster but a bigger one will run faster. I say Tsunami don't be scared
I can see that in drag racing, but when it comes to powering through an apex you really need to be able to control the power at 40-60% throttle and it's real nice to be able to roll through a corner and power through in a single gear, because at a track like Virgina intl. raceway there are some long fast corners where you would want to exit in 3rd gear and you don't necessarily want to enter the corner in 2nd because it would force a shift under power mid corner OR you just have to wait to put the power down both are gay situations. the ideal situation would be rolling into the corner in 3rd at lower than ideal RPMs and having enough torque in the lower/ mid range to pull smoothly through the entire corner and hitting 4th as the car straightens out.



would fly cutting be mandatory with either the V.3 or Tsunami? I am figuring on the PRC stage 2.5 heads form TSP with the lowest possible CC combustion chamber without fly cutting (64cc?).
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Old May 9, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 1fastkingcab
Yes actually, I put the V.2 in a guys 02 SS and I liked it, as did he. I also didn't have to fly cut the which I am sure will have to happen with the tsunami and I'm not so sure on the V.3
Thats good so you already have experience with it and know its driveability and power output. IMO, the v2 (or variations of it with similar specs) is a happy medium between a small and big cam. It makes good power, has a noticeable lope, and doesnt take intense tuning for it to drive properly....and as you mentioned before no fly cutting.

Im getting a C6 in December, but going with a more smooth, stealth style cam in it
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Originally Posted by 1fastkingcab
I can see that in drag racing, but when it comes to powering through an apex you really need to be able to control the power at 40-60% throttle and it's real nice to be able to roll through a corner and power through in a single gear, because at a track like Virgina intl. raceway there are some long fast corners where you would want to exit in 3rd gear and you don't necessarily want to enter the corner in 2nd because it would force a shift under power mid corner OR you just have to wait to put the power down both are gay situations. the ideal situation would be rolling into the corner in 3rd at lower than ideal RPMs and having enough torque in the lower/ mid range to pull smoothly through the entire corner and hitting 4th as the car straightens out.



would fly cutting be mandatory with either the V.3 or Tsunami? I am figuring on the PRC stage 2.5 heads form TSP with the lowest possible CC combustion chamber without fly cutting (64cc?).
that makes sense. might consider something that size either with a tighter LSA, or get an adjustable cam gear and advance it 2-4 degrees, or just a smaller cam with a relatively wide LSA (114/115 ish) to help carry the power to the upper rpm range. as far as fly cutting, theres no way to know without checking which will be easy to do if you are already going to have the heads off...
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Old May 9, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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ed curtis street sweeper cam
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Old May 9, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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small cams r for girls!!!!
Ignorant comment , considering what he wants to use the car for which is not a drag strip car. He clearly stated "he mostly drives the car at cruises,road courses and SCCS sports car events". And for that sort of thing he needs power under the curve not something that kicks in at 4000 rpms violently. I would stick with 230 or under . Texas speed 228r is a nice proven cam , or TR 230/224 is another nice 1 and the good old TR224. I think any one of those are better for your friends purposes than either of those 2 stated above.

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Old May 9, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by guns77
Ignorant comment , considering what he wants to use the car for which is not a drag strip car. He clearly stated "he mostly drives the car at cruises,road courses and SCCS sports car events". And for that sort of thing he needs power under the curve not something that kicks in at 4000 rpms violently. I would stick with 230 or under . Texas speed 228r is a nice proven cam , or TR 230/224 is another nice 1 and the good old TR224. I think any one of those are better for your friends purposes than either of those 2 stated above.
i new i would get a raise out of somebody!!!

good luck with ur built man take ur time and pick the cam best 4 what your going to use the car 4.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by guns77
Ignorant comment , considering what he wants to use the car for which is not a drag strip car. He clearly stated "he mostly drives the car at cruises,road courses and SCCS sports car events". And for that sort of thing he needs power under the curve not something that kicks in at 4000 rpms violently. I would stick with 230 or under . Texas speed 228r is a nice proven cam , or TR 230/224 is another nice 1 and the good old TR224. I think any one of those are better for your friends purposes than either of those 2 stated above.
I actual sent him an email this afternoon with links to the TR224, Futural F2-112 and to think about the TSP 228R

But after the comment about the StreetSweeper, I did some research, and I think I'm going to steer him in that direction. that cam looks very promising
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Yup small cams are for girls and they drop off at 6000 rpm Custom BRE 224 cam here, I wanted more power everywhere. I have unported 243s with a 5 angle valve job I did and milled .020" for 11:1 compression. My setup puts most budget ported cnc heads to shame and I've got $180 in ebay headers, $400 to purchase my heads and $50 to mill them, $300 fast 78 intake I opened up to a 85mm with a $180 professional products 85mm t/b. I dare you to find a setup that puts down 365 rwtq @ 3000 rpm and pulls to 6800 rpm with out falling off. How does 400 rwtq @ 3800 rpm sound? Good luck finding it with any budget heads or off the shelf cams. If you want the best have a professional who specs cams for a living spec your setup. Oh ya forget both your mention cams, those are very agressive lobe profiles and will beat the **** out of your valve seats and springs. If he drives the car much please steer clear of those lobes.

Check the dyno section for more details, I have a post there.

147 mph = 6800 rpm 428 rwhp from 5800 to 6800



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Old May 10, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Umm. your dyno sheet is falling off around 6k is it a top secret gind? or is it public? do you know the specs, and If we where to decide on the BRE 224 can I just pick up the phone & order one?
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Umm. your dyno sheet is falling off around 6k is it a top secret gind? or is it public? do you know the specs, and If we where to decide on the BRE 224 can I just pick up the phone & order one?
How do you see it as falling off? He's within 5-10hp of peak from 6000-6800 rpm. I'd rather have the power there than at 6600-7400 as it's easier on valvetrain and rotating parts.
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i would go with a Tsunami cam. I have a 230 duration cam, and it is very drivable. I actually want to step up to just a tad bit more cam.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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Is his car A4 or M6??? If auto then he has either 2:73's or 3:15's, M6 would be 3:42's. Could make a difference on the cam he picks.

I like my cam pretty good, 228/232 xer 588/592 on a 110. Of course I've got a M6 and 4:10's but I've like my power under the curve. I just had some as cast Trick Flows added a couple of weeks ago and now my clutch won't handle the power. LS7 ordered and on the way. I could have had a bigger cam put in as I had a ud pulley added when the heads were put on. Mines more of a weekend cruiser also but I want good driveability. My cam still has a nice sound too it, and if I want to sound a little meaner I just open the cutouts a little. I really don't ever see wanting to move up to a bigger cam, hell, I don't have traction in 1st or 2nd now..
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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:28 AM
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You are missing one cam that should be on this list FOR SURE, Texas Speeds 233/239 596/605. SICK CAM.

I just installed this cam in my car a few weeks ago. I have a set of 5.3L Stage 2.5 heads from Texas Speed, milled .023. This cam pulls hard from low to high rpm. I have an A4 and it will shred the tires all the way into 3rd gear. I guarantee you won't be disappointed in how much fun it is to drive. Do a search and you can find lots of people that love this cam.

Good Luck!!! Oh yea, sounds sick too.
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