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Old 01-10-2004, 04:33 PM
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Well, I'm trying to get the preload just right on my valvetrain , but I can't seem to get it 'with-in spec'. I'm using 7.40 hardened pushrods with Comp-R lifters and an aftermarket cam. 7.35 pushrods seem too small, but 7.40's are just a hair too long. Does anyone know who sells a good variety pack of shims so I can get preload correct?

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I used sheetmetal to make a couple sets until I got it right. I had the exact same problem with the same setup but heads milled .030 and stock 7.38" pushrods. Here is a chart I used. http://www.slotcar.com/drs/gachart.htm
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Originally Posted by felton316
Well, I'm trying to get the preload just right on my valvetrain , but I can't seem to get it 'with-in spec'. I'm using 7.40 hardened pushrods with Comp-R lifters and an aftermarket cam. 7.35 pushrods seem too small, but 7.40's are just a hair too long. Does anyone know who sells a good variety pack of shims so I can get preload correct?

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I used spare Jesel shims from my SBC setup, they work very nice.
Dont Comp R lifters require adjustable rockers for proper use?
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I believe that the R's require a preload between 0.000 and 0.010 max. The website says .008, but there's a little slack in there. Thats gonna be fun without an adjustable valve train.
Thats why I decided to just go with stock.
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Oh, I forgot to mention that the heads were milled .030". Adjustable rockers would make this a hell of a lot easier, but I dont have $800 to drop on some new rockers right now. So I will have to shim it!
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If the heads were mille.030 the 7.35 pushrods should not be too short. Especially with CompR's.
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I went to the hardware store and bought shim stock and just driled out a big strip to fit under my jessel setup. And i have comp r lifters and no problems here.
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Originally Posted by Reboot
If the heads were mille.030 the 7.35 pushrods should not be too short. Especially with CompR's.
If only it was that simple...lol.
If only took me 2 or 3 tries to get it right. They require very little preload.
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I sure hope that you are NOT using the pushrods to set/change the pre-load because that is NOT how its done. The pushrods have absolutely nothing to do with adjusting the pre-load. The length of the pushrod is determined by where the rocker arm contacts the tip of the valve. You FIRST need to determine the correct pushrod length and then check/adjust your pre-load using shims.

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Originally Posted by BergerMan
I sure hope that you are NOT using the pushrods to set/change the pre-load because that is NOT how its done. The pushrods have absolutely nothing to do with the pre-load. The length of the pushrod is determined by where the rocker arm contacts the tip of the valve. You FIRST need to determine the correct pushrod length and then check/adjust your pre-load. Once you check & adjust the first one, the rest should be the same.
That is partially true. BUT you must check EACH one as there can be variance
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Originally Posted by BergerMan
I sure hope that you are NOT using the pushrods to set/change the pre-load because that is NOT how its done. The pushrods have absolutely nothing to do with the pre-load. The length of the pushrod is determined by where the rocker arm contacts the tip of the valve. You FIRST need to determine the correct pushrod length and then check/adjust your pre-load. Once you check & adjust the first one, the rest should be the same.
I disagree, geometry is set by rocker pedestal height, pushrod length is used to set preload from there, unless you have adjustable rockers, than you have some more preload freedom. GM sets rocker pedestal height using stock parts, Jesel setup uses tools to check this proper setting and shims to adjust it ideally. its just that simple. Your comments apply to floating individual rocker set up like SBC.
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Originally Posted by felton316
Well, I'm trying to get the preload just right on my valvetrain , but I can't seem to get it 'with-in spec'. I'm using 7.40 hardened pushrods with Comp-R lifters and an aftermarket cam. 7.35 pushrods seem too small, but 7.40's are just a hair too long. Does anyone know who sells a good variety pack of shims so I can get preload correct?

Thanks,
Another guy just asked this in another post. Here is my answer to him;

Crane has a kit, #99179-1 that will work with bridge-type rocker assemblies (that's what we have stock). I believe these will work as they go between the bridge and the head. Give 'em a call and see if they'll work on the LS1.
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