Got my first Ls1 build started
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yea i will do that, il try to find some used.... thanks for all the input and help, il try to find a stroke crank seperate and then then pistons and rods and all the goodies new or used if they are really good.
my buddy told me to make a goal before i get deep into something so i wanted 500rwhp and yeah i wont concentrrate on that as much.
thats why i asked which build would be best for me. thanks guys
my buddy told me to make a goal before i get deep into something so i wanted 500rwhp and yeah i wont concentrrate on that as much.
thats why i asked which build would be best for me. thanks guys
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yea i will do that, il try to find some used.... thanks for all the input and help, il try to find a stroke crank seperate and then then pistons and rods and all the goodies new or used if they are really good.
my buddy told me to make a goal before i get deep into something so i wanted 500rwhp and yeah i wont concentrrate on that as much.
thats why i asked which build would be best for me. thanks guys
my buddy told me to make a goal before i get deep into something so i wanted 500rwhp and yeah i wont concentrrate on that as much.
thats why i asked which build would be best for me. thanks guys
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yea i plan on doing the build from bottom up preaty much. i want to do rotating assembly first. i also want some nice high flow heads for this type of build and a cam to match the specifics not just a huge cam. i read alot about cams today and there is alot! lol. but i want to make it good and try to have a budget build.
Screw Rwhp numbers... Means absolutely nothing if the setup doesn't work together. I put down 370Rwhp in my stalled FULL WEIGHT A4 car and am knocking on 10s back door.
If you absolutely have to have a 500Rwhp just to impress people.... Recipe is simple..
lid
ls6 intake/ported TB
cam- anything above a size 230/232 .600 114 will do the job fine (of course you need springs/pushrods/timing chain/oil pump as well)
LTs/ORY/cutout stock muffler or aftermarket, does not matter as you will run with open cutout when racing and what not
converter if an A4 (I suggest a 3600 nitrous converter)
gears are a must if you are an M6, 410s... If A4 it is up to you if you want to change gears.. If you have 273s I would at least swap to 342s.. If you have 323s, I would leave them in there.
Spray it..
That should get you to 500 and then a little in an A4 pretty easily.. M6 you will be well over your mark.
If you absolutely have to have a 500Rwhp just to impress people.... Recipe is simple..
lid
ls6 intake/ported TB
cam- anything above a size 230/232 .600 114 will do the job fine (of course you need springs/pushrods/timing chain/oil pump as well)
LTs/ORY/cutout stock muffler or aftermarket, does not matter as you will run with open cutout when racing and what not
converter if an A4 (I suggest a 3600 nitrous converter)
gears are a must if you are an M6, 410s... If A4 it is up to you if you want to change gears.. If you have 273s I would at least swap to 342s.. If you have 323s, I would leave them in there.
Spray it..
That should get you to 500 and then a little in an A4 pretty easily.. M6 you will be well over your mark.
Forged bottom end.... Heads.... Stroking the engine... Etc etc etc... All for a measly 500Rwhp? No way I would blow all that money for only 500Rwhp. I would be worrying more about your rear/trans.
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ha thanks guys. yeah i want it to be a m6 for sure. also i am attempting to do this motor without a ridiculous price. i have plenty of time, im in the planning stage now. but i want the motor done preferably in a year and a half max.
Yeah like I said rwhp are a byproduct of what you do to run well I know plenty of people that are dyno queens 500 and 600 hp cars running 12s trapping 125mph+ now is that what you want that's the question.
You could do the build I posted for under $2,500 easily and put down well over 500Rwhp... That is if you are starting with a bone stock car.
But again, if you are M6... You need around 1,500-2000$ for your rear end.. As well as quite a pretty penny for trans upgrades. BOTH will be a MUST with a 500+Rwhp M6. With an A4 both should last much longer than with an M6.
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Yeah actually..
http://www.modifiedcartrader.com/e/machine.aspx?i=20102
Talked to the guy about it and yes he is on a conservative tune an don E85 650 is in definite reach
http://www.modifiedcartrader.com/e/machine.aspx?i=20102
Talked to the guy about it and yes he is on a conservative tune an don E85 650 is in definite reach
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yea definatly seen that.... id like to have a nice powerfull car, it should be touching tens. i am not looking for any faster. just a good budget build. unless u guys think boost would be the better option....
Yeah actually..
http://www.modifiedcartrader.com/e/machine.aspx?i=20102
Talked to the guy about it and yes he is on a conservative tune an don E85 650 is in definite reach
http://www.modifiedcartrader.com/e/machine.aspx?i=20102
Talked to the guy about it and yes he is on a conservative tune an don E85 650 is in definite reach
That car is 150Rwhp shy of 650. it isn't 650 until it is 650. That is 500.
You couldn't buy a decent basic complete turbo setup for the price of that, not even close.
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I swear on my life it could get 650..e85 is very good in these types of cars...No get pissey because a 4cyl..could possible have more Hp than you V8..
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N/A because if you boost you want to be safe so that still involve's building the bottom end..IF you want to run a high amount of boost...And still it seems to me you would have to build the rear end..