What wipe pattern can't even see the valve

 

wrong geometry can cuz this! which means who ever di the heads could of "MEASURED WRONG" or added etc! for pushrod and valve. also could of been a tuliped valve.

 

looking at that pic really good well best i can it look like u drop a valve in ways! like to know what goes on keep us posted

 

Check it on one not damaged. You are looking for the cause. If you disassemble everything and don't figure out the cause you may end up with the same situation later.

 

ok , but what am i looking for on the stem ? scratches?

 

I'm just trying not to have any time where I have to stop working .I want to dig in and get the parts that I need and get the beast going again

 

You need to do a wipe check on the rocker geometry to ensure the rockers are set at the correct height. If you are replacing all the valves and having the heads done, check it when the heads come back from the shop.

 

he probably needs the wipe pattern check explained to him

 

I only plan on replacing broken parts ,,,how Do I Do a wipe check ???

 

Here is a link on how I did it with my AFR heads and Yella Terra rockers so you understand how things work. Link

Since you have stock rockers, things will change a bit. Also, need to know what tools you have available to you for this check. One other thing to consider, if you only replace the bad valves without checking the rest of the valves you can run into three problems. First, the valve stem height on the replacement valves may be different then the rest. Second, the remaining valves may have the same problem in which case you will be taking the motor apart again. Third, if they valve job on the heads is special like five angle and not stock, you need someone who can provide that matching cut on the valves.

I had asked earlier whose heads these were?

 

One other thing you need to check is the retainers and locks used in the setup. As mentioned earlier by KCS, the valve stem looks very low in the retainer and there are special parts that can be bought just for this purpose. You need to see which locks you have installed. I would contact Patriot for new retainers and talk to them about the locks as well. A photo of the lock will help once you get it apart.

 

He said they were stock heads.

 

Didn't catch that. He needs to check the installed parts, especially the locks since he stated they are all doing this.

 

So then I don't have to do the wipe thing? Car should be here tomorrow then I can get more pics .....thanks everyone for their help ..

 

to me it looks as if you dropped the valve into the cylinder man.. you cant even see the valve at the seal.. my money is on a new motor.. im sure there is a hole in the piston

 

I would. Once you pull it all apart you may have a problem finding the cause. You need to take a deliberate approach to this so you can find the cause and correct it. Since all the retainers are dented the rocker contact sounds like it was never correctly setup.

 

Vettenuts.. Stellar write-up.. Best I've ever seen it explaned 

 

Based solely off reading here you don't seem to have the knowledge base or help to get this done. Take it to a shop

 

+1 buy the parts and get the beast running again? save yourself the agony working in that hell hole engine compartment and yank it right out. that motor is toast.

 

the guy that was going to bring it could not make it so i will have to bring it down to my house myself next week .......i know there is a big chance the engine is done but untill i take the head off and see it then i will know.and if it is done then i just might try to sell the whole car .how much can i get for it ? no dents ,clear title,freshly rebuilt tranny,new clutch (luk),master ,slave,ls6 intake,bigger injectors,mild comp cam,ported oil pump,c5 wheels (star) 17s in front 18 in back,cold air intake good interrior.if not much then ill just get another motor....(will not part out)