would you get a bigger/better stick?
08-18-2010, 01:15 AM
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would you get a bigger/better stick? I'm thinking about going bigger with my cam in the drag car. The cam in it was used as a decently wild street car camshaft. Now its not a street car at all, the converter flashes to 5200 and it has a 4.86 gear. I just wonder what I can gain from a better stick.
cam now is a 239/242 .617/.629 114. Not exactly small, but i'm thinking a tad more lift and more duration could help out, and go 111 or so LSA. I'm not looking for power below about 4800 EVER, so I don't care if it makes low end.
the motor is still a stock cube lq9, diamond 9.5:1s, patriot, now redone 59cc ls6 heads (318/230 flow #s) fast 92/92. Motor isnt wild wild but makes damn good power for what it is and runs nice and consistent.
maybe i'm chasing nothing here with stock cubes but hey, I like to hear input
cam now is a 239/242 .617/.629 114. Not exactly small, but i'm thinking a tad more lift and more duration could help out, and go 111 or so LSA. I'm not looking for power below about 4800 EVER, so I don't care if it makes low end.
the motor is still a stock cube lq9, diamond 9.5:1s, patriot, now redone 59cc ls6 heads (318/230 flow #s) fast 92/92. Motor isnt wild wild but makes damn good power for what it is and runs nice and consistent.
maybe i'm chasing nothing here with stock cubes but hey, I like to hear input
08-18-2010, 01:34 AM
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solid roller is definately in the back of my mind on this car, It would benefit me greatly, It sees 72-7300 if I run it out the back door in the 1/4, and its just not making the power up there, falls off around 6700. But I run more 1/8 than 1/4 so I've let it slide.
The cam is about 6 years old now I believe, so it wasnt a ms4ish custom grind..but definately not on the best lobes being that old. Its a old comp grind. Not intended for what i'm doing with it now either,
Its just a nice little bracket car but i'm outstepping my boundaries now with my intentions
solid roller is definately in the back of my mind on this car, It would benefit me greatly, It sees 72-7300 if I run it out the back door in the 1/4, and its just not making the power up there, falls off around 6700. But I run more 1/8 than 1/4 so I've let it slide.
The cam is about 6 years old now I believe, so it wasnt a ms4ish custom grind..but definately not on the best lobes being that old. Its a old comp grind. Not intended for what i'm doing with it now either,
Its just a nice little bracket car but i'm outstepping my boundaries now with my intentions
08-18-2010, 01:39 AM
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Most likely an XE-R grind then. There are so many more wicked Lobe profiles to go with these days that are leaps and bounds over what was HOT 6 years ago. I know you knew that though. I would seriously look at doing a solid roller. You show all the signs of needing one.
1. Not a DD
2. Not under 4800...EVER!!!!!!!!!!
3. Drag car
4. Stuck with an average cam from years ago and looking for bigger/better.
5. Still not a DD
If you can track him down, Allan Futral is someone I would start talking with about solid cams. You should look at the FMS Godzilla cam and see if that is what you were looking for out of your car.
1. Not a DD
2. Not under 4800...EVER!!!!!!!!!!
3. Drag car
4. Stuck with an average cam from years ago and looking for bigger/better.
5. Still not a DD
If you can track him down, Allan Futral is someone I would start talking with about solid cams. You should look at the FMS Godzilla cam and see if that is what you were looking for out of your car.
08-18-2010, 01:49 AM
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I appreciate all the input, I'm def looking into doing something.
Only thing it will hurt is the ol wallet. i spent so much on the freakin car this winter i'm still trying to put the fire out on my backside.
I swear, everytime I open my mouth with this car at least $2500 goes flyin out the window! haha
Only thing it will hurt is the ol wallet. i spent so much on the freakin car this winter i'm still trying to put the fire out on my backside.
I swear, everytime I open my mouth with this car at least $2500 goes flyin out the window! haha
08-18-2010, 02:44 PM
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500ish lifters
500-1000 shaft mount rockers
pushrods
$400 cam
roughly
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08-18-2010, 02:57 PM
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changing over to a single plane vic jr or sr will help wake it up in the upper rpm band with a sr stick also. maybe something 24x/25x .650 lift or so on a 110 or so ?
08-19-2010, 03:31 AM
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Not a bad idea, but i'd like to see how far the 92 will go.
the current combo made 470RWHP the other day. I thought that was pretty damn good. Its a heartbreaker on the dyno with a steep gear, loose stall and a th350..but I didnt build it for dyno queen runs. Hell, it made 75 less to the wheels same day with the slicks mounted vs drag radials. Its crazy how much power slicks rob on the dyno.
the current combo made 470RWHP the other day. I thought that was pretty damn good. Its a heartbreaker on the dyno with a steep gear, loose stall and a th350..but I didnt build it for dyno queen runs. Hell, it made 75 less to the wheels same day with the slicks mounted vs drag radials. Its crazy how much power slicks rob on the dyno.
08-20-2010, 06:51 AM
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Does the engine really have 9.5:1 compression? If it does I would address that first. What rpm are you trying to turn, a fast setup is pretty much done by 7000 rpm. You could easily sell the fast setup, buy a super victor and have money left over. Ported super victor, more compression, solid cam and lots of rpm. I would have a custom cam specced by someone who is familiar with these types of setups (HKE engines) or of course Geoff @ EPS.
08-20-2010, 05:15 PM
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Does the engine really have 9.5:1 compression? If it does I would address that first. What rpm are you trying to turn, a fast setup is pretty much done by 7000 rpm. You could easily sell the fast setup, buy a super victor and have money left over. Ported super victor, more compression, solid cam and lots of rpm. I would have a custom cam specced by someone who is familiar with these types of setups (HKE engines) or of course Geoff @ EPS.
08-20-2010, 06:18 PM
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What is a 9.5:1 piston? How many cc dish is it? 9.5:1 piston rated with what head gaskets and combustion chamber size? Pretty vague really, I prefer to know exacts, not "should be ok". Most cam guys try to match the cam to your compression ratio so they can determine dynamic compression ratio.
08-21-2010, 12:02 AM
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What is a 9.5:1 piston? How many cc dish is it? 9.5:1 piston rated with what head gaskets and combustion chamber size? Pretty vague really, I prefer to know exacts, not "should be ok". Most cam guys try to match the cam to your compression ratio so they can determine dynamic compression ratio.
I'd have to get out my reciepts, I didnt cometics and the heads in december, I cant remember off the top of my head. As far as the dish, i'd have to look it up, this is a fairly old setup
