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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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I own a 2001 T/A M6. I thought that perhaps I could install TSP 224 .581 114 cam without tuning (at least not right away $$$ ) But... I may have found a deal on ported heads: 2.02/1.57 valves. Heads milled .040. Does anyone know if I could go without tuning - for perhaps a year? The heads and cam will use every bit of my savings.

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Its all going to depend on that cam really. A heads/cam combo that only spins to 6200 is kinda a waste, but as long as you can get it to idle with a hole in the throttle body you should be fine. People did heads/cam cars all the time years ago before tuning was so mainstream in the LS1 world.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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make sure you have set of long tubes headers if you want the full potenial of the cam or heads.

do kill yourself just to get a cam or a set of heads and then have to drive a untuned car around,... thats no fun. if you dont have all the bolt ons...get them first....if you do then get the cam and then save some $$$ so you can get it tuned when you get the cam installed. a stock cam wont bring in enough air to get 100% out of the ported heads.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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I've got LTs, and most of the other bolt-ons. I've got enough $ for a cam & tuning. I just hate to let the heads get away for 1/2 price. It would also be nice to install both at the same time. But if driveability is a problem...
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Drivability isnt going to be much of a problem with a 224/224 114lsa cam, its just the idle. I drove my Camaro around for ages with all sorts of cams and it never bothered me.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Holy crap the heads are milled 40k --i would strongly suggest ,getting a professional reading on just how much piston to valve clearence is left --581 is pretty tall for a 40k mill --and do these heads need another 5k taken off for a refresh "prev. owners old head gasket" then you are talkin 45 min --if the head needs 10 taken off 50k!! -They may not be a good deal then -
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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yah heads arent the weak link for any gm car id get the cam that you want and tuning...figured cam/heads w/ no t uning might be worth 45-60hp but risk running rich or lean...tuned cam can grab you 40-60hp by itself and your a/f will be dead on JMO
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Cam and headers, forget the heads, the headers will be a big boost and the cam cant breathe without them.
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Cam and headers, forget the heads, the headers will be a big boost and the cam cant breathe without them.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:13 AM
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The heads have not been installed since the porting. I'm "assuming" I won't need anymore milling.
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