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Originally Posted by Mike98WS6
From what Terry said alone I would get those heads. Customer service is great. So is the product.
It is funny that out of "all these cars" that were down on power after they installed patriot heads, we have NEVER seen a graph of a swap between patriot heads and someone elses and the car gaining power. I belive that "lower than expected" numbers can be contributed to poor combo's, weak engines, bad tuning, drivetrain problems, or a combination of those factors.
I promise you though, whatever head you buy from any board sponsor, you will be happy with them and the service you recieve. Each sponsor has impressed me with the care and attention they give to their customers. We should be proud that we have such wonderful resources available to us.
Last edited by gomer; Jan 31, 2004 at 05:52 PM.
[QUOTE=gomer] I have NEVER seen evidence of any problems related to the welding of chambers on anyones heads on this or any other board. Heck, Summit racing does loads of research before they will sell someones product. The simple fact of Summit racing beginning to sell Patriot heads in their spring catalog should be reassuring enough to belive in their quality.
ok gomer why dont you ask Terry about the set of heads that came back to him last week with the # 1 stamped on it a few times. You seem to think i dont know whats going on but i do. those heads were SOFT as a cushion. not to mention that the seats were sinking and the valve guides were horrible. that is what welding chambers does to a head. as for summit, funny how they called ABSOLUTE SPEED the end of last week.
I do my research
ok gomer why dont you ask Terry about the set of heads that came back to him last week with the # 1 stamped on it a few times. You seem to think i dont know whats going on but i do. those heads were SOFT as a cushion. not to mention that the seats were sinking and the valve guides were horrible. that is what welding chambers does to a head. as for summit, funny how they called ABSOLUTE SPEED the end of last week.
I do my research
Originally Posted by gomer
I agree, my car has made great power with every set of patriot heads I've had on it. And as far as consistancy goes, the set of LS6 style heads I have right now makes exactly the same power as the set I had before. Also, the first set I had was a prototype set that wasn't heat treated (I bought the heads knowing that) and I ran them for 4,000 miles without any issues. This second set with the dual quench chambers are the production heads and they are heat treated... 4,000 miles on them too, and no problems. I have NEVER seen evidence of any problems related to the welding of chambers on anyones heads on this or any other board. Heck, Summit racing does loads of research before they will sell someones product. The simple fact of Summit racing beginning to sell Patriot heads in their spring catalog should be reassuring enough to belive in their quality.
It is funny that out of "all these cars" that were down on power after they installed patriot heads, we have NEVER seen a graph of a swap between patriot heads and someone elses and the car gaining power. I belive that "lower than expected" numbers can be contributed to poor combo's, weak engines, bad tuning, drivetrain problems, or a combination of those factors.
I promise you though, whatever head you buy from any board sponsor, you will be happy with them and the service you recieve. Each sponsor has impressed me with the care and attention they give to their customers. We should be proud that we have such wonderful resources available to us.
It is funny that out of "all these cars" that were down on power after they installed patriot heads, we have NEVER seen a graph of a swap between patriot heads and someone elses and the car gaining power. I belive that "lower than expected" numbers can be contributed to poor combo's, weak engines, bad tuning, drivetrain problems, or a combination of those factors.
I promise you though, whatever head you buy from any board sponsor, you will be happy with them and the service you recieve. Each sponsor has impressed me with the care and attention they give to their customers. We should be proud that we have such wonderful resources available to us.
I did my research too!!! 
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IMO, your heads can only be as good as your cam and the rest of your combo. whats the point of having a killer head if you dont have a cam to take advantage or vise versa. if 2100 bucks is your limit, look into the MTI S2E(?) heads, Absolute, or GTP S1 heads. for 200 bucks more you can have GTP S2 heads. they are proven heads to run mid 10s on motor with the right cam. either way, good luck on your choice.
i guess you guys seemed to skip my statement in my post. I had in my own hands a set of pp ls6 style heads off of a recent poster who complained of low dyno #s. the heads were SOFT, seats were sinking in the heads, plus the same person complained about oil consumption. becuase the valve guides were off. mike98ws6 you have no need to worry about these as for the 5.3 heads arent getting welded. plus what kind of power are these heads making??? it seems the bar has been raised to 450 i think patriot has one set of heads that made over 450 and its gomer. the guy who bought 6 sets. i jsut hate seeing nice people getting screwed. yeah terry sends a new set of heads right out after a guy has major problems. that is why no one comes foward with what really happened.
I'm sure if there's guys who have had problems with the Patriot's they would tell us on the board with the PP LS6's. I'm pretty sure Terry wouldn't send out a set of heads knowing they have problems with welding up the chambers. If there are problems I would like to hear them too. Who knows I might swap out my 5.3's for them one day.
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Originally Posted by Mike98WS6
I'm sure if there's guys who have had problems with the Patriot's they would tell us on the board with the PP LS6's. I'm pretty sure Terry wouldn't send out a set of heads knowing they have problems with welding up the chambers. If there are problems I would like to hear them too. Who knows I might swap out my 5.3's for them one day.
If YOU have had a problem with the LS6 style patriot heads, PLEASE post up your problem. Because these are the heads that I'm running now and the heads I plan on using on my stroker motor. Notice I only want first hand information, no second or third hand stuff.