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Old 10-17-2010, 06:16 PM
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FWIW: I ran a 230-236 112 +2 on my stock bottom end 346 build. Great overall power. I drove it in DC rush hour which is a testament to it's good manners = properly tune. H/C 90/90 setup made 460 at the wheels.
Old 10-17-2010, 06:22 PM
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I would contact Cam Motion or stick with Pat G. Geoff at EPS is a nice guy to deal with as well. I would probably just have Pat G spec it and have Cam Motion grind it. I'd also see what cam motion came up with as well.
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Originally Posted by *02WS6TURK*
I was trying to say I was happy about it.....wasn't suggesting them. Keep us posted.
sorry I wasn't trying to sound like a smart ***. Im waiting to see what futral and Pat g spec out for me then I have to decide which one im gonna go with. I like what I've read about eps lobes and pat g cams but my cousin seems to love his f14 cam so im torn.
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Originally Posted by mtuggle86
sorry I wasn't trying to sound like a smart ***. Im waiting to see what futral and Pat g spec out for me then I have to decide which one im gonna go with. I like what I've read about eps lobes and pat g cams but my cousin seems to love his f14 cam so im torn.
Take a ride in your cousin car . If you guys have similar mods ,well that should give you a pretty good idea how your ride my turn out.
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Originally Posted by Mac 2002 SS
Take a ride in your cousin car . If you guys have similar mods ,well that should give you a pretty good idea how your ride my turn out.
I would but hes not close by Ive seen videos of it and one thing i like about it is it lopes good. Ill just have to wait and see what they spec it seems both shops have good reps.
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Ok futral emailed me back first they speced out 230/236 .595/.600 111+4 anyone have anythoughts on this cam? Also is there any reason to choose the eps lobes over the futral lobes?
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Originally Posted by mtuggle86
Ok futral emailed me back first they speced out 230/236 .595/.600 111+4 anyone have anythoughts on this cam? Also is there any reason to choose the eps lobes over the futral lobes?
Not sure about the lobes, but thats pretty similar to what Cam Motion suggested and ground for me. Mines a 232/238 .595/.595 110+4 and with true duals, it idles and sounds ******* MEAN.
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Originally Posted by Mac 2002 SS
Call Futral Motorsports. Allan or Charlie will galdly help you . They help me with my cam choice and customized it to what works best with my mods. F13 or F14 with a good set of 243's.....great street manners and awesome track performers. It may be a little ol'school tech to most, but it works and works very well .
Cam in sig is a special grind for my particular application through Futral Motorsports. The cam performs great on nitrous and still maintains plenty of grunt on the bottom end while running n/a. Futral Motorsports and Cam Motion makes a great team.
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Originally Posted by mtuggle86
Ok futral emailed me back first they speced out 230/236 .595/.600 111+4 anyone have anythoughts on this cam? Also is there any reason to choose the eps lobes over the futral lobes?
To be honest ,man. I don't know nothing about EPS or Pat G. ,but I have heard those guys make some mean power with their set-ups and it seems most guys who have those cams love'em. I can only speak for myself , Futral makes a great cam . It's perfect for what I want to do. Run mid-to-low 11's on motor . Able to drive anywhere I want with my A/C on talking with my wife while listening to some music . To me ,the F13 fits my needs.

The choice is yours my friend and I don't think you can go wrong with either one.
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Originally Posted by mtuggle86
Ok futral emailed me back first they speced out 230/236 .595/.600 111+4 anyone have anythoughts on this cam? Also is there any reason to choose the eps lobes over the futral lobes?
The lobe design is the difference.
http://www.engpwrsys.com/tech-notes/cam-design.html
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Originally Posted by BaddBird
The lobe design is the difference.
http://www.engpwrsys.com/tech-notes/cam-design.html
I think Im just gonna go with the Pat G cam he specked out 230/234 .600 .602 111+4
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Originally Posted by squee
Not sure about the lobes, but thats pretty similar to what Cam Motion suggested and ground for me. Mines a 232/238 .595/.595 110+4 and with true duals, it idles and sounds ******* MEAN.
Originally Posted by david vericker
Cam in sig is a special grind for my particular application through Futral Motorsports. The cam performs great on nitrous and still maintains plenty of grunt on the bottom end while running n/a. Futral Motorsports and Cam Motion makes a great team.
Gentlemen, if you wouldn't mind helping me out here:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/multimedi...und-clips.html
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Originally Posted by mtuggle86
I think Im just gonna go with the Pat G cam he specked out 230/234 .600 .602 111+4
Those specs are on EPS lobes.
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Originally Posted by mtuggle86
I think Im just gonna go with the Pat G cam he specked out 230/234 .600 .602 111+4
order the cam from Geoff and have him run it on his cam pro. .The cams come in larger and spec'd and Pat takes that into consideration when it's spec'd

I have a PatG cam spec'd 226/230 .598”/.600” 112LSA +2 and it's strong all the way to the shift point. After I got it tuned I was shifting from second to third and I thought the clutch was slipping till I felt the rear end slide then I knew it was spinning. These cams make the power and don't skimp on good valve springs.
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Originally Posted by mtuggle86
I think Im just gonna go with the Pat G cam he specked out 230/234 .600 .602 111+4
That's great...you couldn't go wrong with either choice.
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i run a Pat G EPS 228/230 .598/.600 112LSA with Comp 918 springs. quiet valve train noise and easy on the valve train. video in my sig
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Originally Posted by squee
Not sure about the lobes, but thats pretty similar to what Cam Motion suggested and ground for me. Mines a 232/238 .595/.595 110+4 and with true duals, it idles and sounds ******* MEAN.
Do you have any sound clips.
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Originally Posted by 98z8uup
Do you have any sound clips.
Originally Posted by squee
Mine is from Cam Motion. Its a 232/236 .595/.595 110+4LSA. The only video I have is a short untuned idle/rev clip with open longtubes on my Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...=1486758132391

Sound is **** though cause I used my phone and the car was so loud it maxed out the mic and makes it sound like its muffled or something.
I posted that in the thread linked above. I actually have a apt with Geoff at EPS monday for my tune, so I'll get some more clips then.
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Originally Posted by printmanjackson
order the cam from Geoff and have him run it on his cam pro. .The cams come in larger and spec'd and Pat takes that into consideration when it's spec'd

I have a PatG cam spec'd 226/230 .598”/.600” 112LSA +2 and it's strong all the way to the shift point. After I got it tuned I was shifting from second to third and I thought the clutch was slipping till I felt the rear end slide then I knew it was spinning. These cams make the power and don't skimp on good valve springs.
Ive got PAC 1518 beehives installed they have about 5k miles on them with my TR224 cam so im sure there still in good shape. There rated at .650 lift so they can handle this new cam.

I plan I having Geoff throw it on his cam pro. how much larger do they measure most of the time?
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I would add 002 to the duration, lift will be pretty close


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