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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Default Tick noise after cam and head install

I wasn't sure if I was pushing the limits but guess I have

Ported 243 heads with 305 cfm at .600

Stock rocker arms,pushrods, and hyrdaulic lifters. Torqued to 22 ft lbs

This is the cam I got:
CCA-54-446-11

Here is the video/sound clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3HtTml6FBo

So sounds like lifter tick to me but wanted to get your opinions as well. Thanks

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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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sounds like it, put a long screw driver to your ear & against the block where you believe the sounds coming from, ie stethoscope, you should be able to pin point where it's at.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Are you actually using OEM pushrods with that cam? Are your heads milled? What valve springs are you using?
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Yea they are stock pushrods. I did a fly cut on the pistons because when I did clearance check it didn't pass, but it definitely does now.

I did notice that the noise did not become as clear until it came up to temp.
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Originally Posted by gokussx4
Yea they are stock pushrods. I did a fly cut on the pistons because when I did clearance check it didn't pass, but it definitely does now.

I did notice that the noise did not become as clear until it came up to temp.
You need hardened push rods with that cam. The stock length for the pushrods may be okay assuming the heads were not milled, which would presumably require shorter pushrods.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Head was not milled. So what is this sound then? I have not rev'ed up the engine past 2k rpm, only took it down the street and back once.

Hardened may be what I will need but it doesn't explain the sound that is current.

Has anyone used this cam before? or had a similar experience? bad lifters or wrong length pushrods?
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Ok new info. I pulled the passenger side valve cover off and no marks on the cover itself. But the #8 cylinder exhaust rocker arm bolt was not tight. It had slack in it and i could unscrew it with my fingers.

Going to figure out tdc, rotate 360, and tighten it back down.

Must have missed it I guess
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Ok retorqued the #8 exhaust rocker arm:

Does it sound ok to you guys now or no?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2czrEAuWFQ
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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It sounds better to me. (kinda hard to give something a clean bill of health based on an internet video).
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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I am not sure why you had to flycut with that cam? Sounds ok to me you always get extra valvetrain noise after a cam. Get pushrods asap hit the limiter and yours will bend with a quickness
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Nothing wrong now, sounds all good. good luck with the car, enjoy
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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How does a torqued bolt come loose? Did you loctite them?
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Thats correct I didn't locktite the exhaust bolts, the haines manual didn't say to do so. I did locktite the intake rocker bolts because the boss was shaved off and was open to the intake port. The recommendation I recieved was to locktite those just to prevent the oil from leaking into the intake port.

Should I have locktite all of them?
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 396D1SS
I am not sure why you had to flycut with that cam? Sounds ok to me you always get extra valvetrain noise after a cam. Get pushrods asap hit the limiter and yours will bend with a quickness
I wasn't expecting to have to flycut them but when i did the clearance check the exhaust ports were almost touching and the intake were very much touching. That was after degreeing the cam in as well, which this particular cam was 2 degree retarded than what the profile specified.
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My book says to locktite them. I use blue medium strength. It's good insurance.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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What book do you go by? I used medium strength on the intake rocker bolts.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 01:17 AM
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get some pushrods as soon as you can so you dont bend any.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 09:28 AM
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did you upgrade your trunnion bearings?
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Didn't upgrade the bearings as I have read stock has been fine. Have you experienced that they have not been ok?
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Does anyone know how the scropion rocker arms are, good?
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