Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

What heads should I be running?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 08:38 AM
  #1  
bayer-z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,085
Likes: 1
From: N. Falmouth MA
Default What heads should I be running?

I've never thought to ask this question.. Not sure why..

I'm running a PatG Tq Cam at 224/228 .637 .639 110+0 with Patriot Dual Gold VS's. I have notice that the new PRC 215 heads are flowing right up there with TFS 215's.. They're actually showing that they flow a smidge higher, if not right dead nuts on.

But anyway.. What heads would work best with this cam? I'm running P+P'd LS6 heads now and how much of a gain do you think would be seen with better flowing low lift # heads?
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:02 AM
  #2  
Rise of the Phoenix's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,728
Likes: 13
From: Jefferson City, MO
Default

Originally Posted by bayer-z28
I've never thought to ask this question.. Not sure why..

I'm running a PatG Tq Cam at 224/228 .637 .639 110+0 with Patriot Dual Gold VS's. I have notice that the new PRC 215 heads are flowing right up there with TFS 215's.. They're actually showing that they flow a smidge higher, if not right dead nuts on.

But anyway.. What heads would work best with this cam? I'm running P+P'd LS6 heads now and how much of a gain do you think would be seen with better flowing low lift # heads?

I'd say some AFR 205's would be the best in terms of low end power and torque.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:09 AM
  #3  
bayer-z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,085
Likes: 1
From: N. Falmouth MA
Default

^ Would some 215's or 225's lose port velocity? Too big? I wish I could find a set of bare AFR 205's. I'd prolly have to make some calls when I get the money read to drop for em.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:20 AM
  #4  
Rise of the Phoenix's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,728
Likes: 13
From: Jefferson City, MO
Default

Originally Posted by bayer-z28
^ Would some 215's or 225's lose port velocity? Too big? I wish I could find a set of bare AFR 205's. I'd prolly have to make some calls when I get the money read to drop for em.
I just bought a set of used AFR 205's that I haven't put on yet; actually been thinking about selling them and just going the cam/intake route for now until I get the car paid off. They have been milled down to 62cc and were pressure tested and cleaned up by a machine shop before I bought them. They'd kick *** with the cam you have. As far as the 215 or 225's being too big; I'd say the 215's would be ok, but deffinately not the 225's. I think you would loose some port velocity even with the 215's as opposed to the 205's, but probably not too much.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:32 AM
  #5  
bayer-z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,085
Likes: 1
From: N. Falmouth MA
Default

Those 225's are prolly a bit big for a 346 anyway..

Those PRC heads really caught my eye though.. 0_o Right up there with TFS, if not nearly identical. Just not a 13.5* valve angle.

lift.......intake...exhaust
.100" 68 cfm 56 cfm
.200" 145 cfm 115 cfm
.300" 214 cfm 167 cfm
.400" 271 cfm 202 cfm
.500" 304 cfm 219 cfm
.600" 318 cfm 238 cfm
.650" 321 cfm 236 cfm
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 03:32 PM
  #6  
bayer-z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,085
Likes: 1
From: N. Falmouth MA
Default

Any other ideas? I'll set my mind on the AFR 205's if I get enough of a solid backing on them for this cam.

I'll also be doing a 96mm PP Typhoon intake with 42# injectors (Unless I find a killer deal on a FAST in the same price range as the PP.)
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 03:37 PM
  #7  
Rise of the Phoenix's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,728
Likes: 13
From: Jefferson City, MO
Default

Originally Posted by bayer-z28
Any other ideas? I'll set my mind on the AFR 205's if I get enough of a solid backing on them for this cam.

I'll also be doing a 96mm PP Typhoon intake with 42# injectors (Unless I find a killer deal on a FAST in the same price range as the PP.)

I'm pretty sure the 224/228 114 LSA cam with AFR 205's is the combo that was used to make close to 500 rwhp. Tony Mamo, the designer of the AFR heads is the man to talk to about the AFR heads. I'll see if I can find that post for you.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 03:39 PM
  #8  
Rise of the Phoenix's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,728
Likes: 13
From: Jefferson City, MO
Default

Here's the link:

AFR 205's + 228/228 113* = 500 RWHP!!
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:02 PM
  #9  
bayer-z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,085
Likes: 1
From: N. Falmouth MA
Default

^ Holy shnikeys!! Yeah.. I KNOW I can see 450 rw out of this cam, I just need a better intake, better LT's and exhaust and a better intake.. So I pretty much have to redo all my bolt ons. PatG got 460 out of it with his setup. These "mild" cams are quite underestimated. I'm just hell bent on making as much if not MORE power than the MS4.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:58 PM
  #10  
garygnu's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,445
Likes: 4
Default

what dose your current heads flow?whats your budget?the PRC 215/225 heads mite be on sale,or consider some trick flow 220cc cast heads at vengeance.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:04 AM
  #11  
Darkman's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,167
Likes: 6
From: Spring, Texas
Default

Originally Posted by bayer-z28
I have notice that the new PRC 215 heads are flowing right up there with TFS 215's.. They're actually showing that they flow a smidge higher, if not right dead nuts on.
Based on the raw numbers posted on the Texas Speed website one could arguably conclude that the PRC 215s outflow the PRC 227s, which seems odd. In comparing the PRC 215s to the TFS 215s, what importance, in any do you associate with the exhaust flow figures?
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2011 | 02:03 PM
  #12  
bayer-z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,085
Likes: 1
From: N. Falmouth MA
Default

^ I honestly didn't even notice the exhaust numbers.. Forgot to look..

And I forgot about this thread..
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:36 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE