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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Damian


#1- You're not going to make 500rwhp. Especially with a GM casting. Stop believing the marketing bullshit you read on the internet. It will only leave you let down and disappointed when your car makes 440-450.
#2- Lots of good options are mentioned in this thread about where to get your heads ported. I'm partial to A.I., but TSP's and TEA's CNC program works well also.

Good luck.
thats really odd my old gto made 500 through a stock bottom end with a off the shelf vrx5 cam
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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I didn't notice in the sig that the OP has a 383. In which case, 500rwhp is definitely possible. I thought we were talking about a stock motor here.

To everyone else referring to GTO's, I never said a 6.0L can't make 500rwhp. But 346ci cars making 500rwhp only exist on the internet.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian
I didn't notice in the sig that the OP has a 383. In which case, 500rwhp is definitely possible. I thought we were talking about a stock motor here.

To everyone else referring to GTO's, I never said a 6.0L can't make 500rwhp. But 346ci cars making 500rwhp only exist on the internet.
So chrs1313 is only an internet racer lol?
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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haha right. there are plenty of people that have made a solid 500 rwhp but it takes quite a lot of work and budget. which is why most people opt for more cubes.
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Originally Posted by djfury05
So chrs1313 is only an internet racer lol?
Yea. Cause ONE car does it, that means it's easy right?

I see plenty of "500rwhp" setups on daily basis that make 440-450 in real life without a bunch of BS dyno tricks.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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yeah cuz pat used dyno tricks.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian
Yea. Cause ONE car does it, that means it's easy right?

I see plenty of "500rwhp" setups on daily basis that make 440-450 in real life without a bunch of BS dyno tricks.
I never said it was easy but its been done by more than 1 and will be again
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by djfury05
So chrs1313 is only an internet racer lol?

I love it when people drop my twin brothers name haha. I made 450 with a box stock set of 243's next year I will have Alex's old heads and cam the 4x ( worked 243's) setup from cartek in my Camaro. And I have a few more tricks up my sleeve to get more power then what Alex put down. Keep your eyes open kids I will be flying next year.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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its not gona be easy on a 3.622- 346. but you need to know what your doing and have some skills for sure. Or everyone would be doing it, and there were be a ton of low 10sec h/c cars withere there stage 2 cnc ported cheap $1,200 heads. theirs not.
but its not like only 2-4 people have every done it. I've made 470whp with a stock VJ 241 i hand ported, with a fast78 and good bolt ons.
500whp has been done with 243s its not going to be with a cnc ported heads, or can add to your shopping cart in website. It will NOT be a budget port job, but will out run most other aftermarket cathedral casting out there. It will need hand porting from a good cly head porter. Like Larry Meaux, Dennis Wheet@AFD airflowdevelop on here, Greg Good, Casey Schnieder, Trevor Johnson, Craig Gallant, Seen some killer 243s form raymac in TX not sure if there were Chris Frank or Paris Pugliese or both? Harold @ Port Pro's, slick rick, lump, if you can get them to work on a 243s, Darrin Morgan,Cary Chouinard know there way around.



edit.. ya the carteck 243s have make 500whp a few times in LS1 vettes and fbody 346s
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http://www.vetteweb.com/features/vem...z06/index.html
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^^^ awesome !!
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Just want to help out future posters. HE HAS A 383.

I'm done. Carry on.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Damian
But 346ci cars making 500rwhp only exist on the internet.
might want to specify N/A 346ci cars
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 00 black ss
how do you figure? ive seen guys making cam only ls2s that are close to 500 if not 500 and i have a few more cubes then them. geoffs cams have been making in that power range with stock casting heads on 346s and those cams are alot smaller then the one he specd me
I agree with you 500rwhp through a m6 is very possible with 243 heads and a 383 short block...

a buddy of mine is going to try and match this 346 this winter...it definitely can be done

https://ls1tech.com/forums/eastern-m...07-9-rwhp.html

and that is through a 12 bolt and 4.56 gears

Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro
I love it when people drop my twin brothers name haha. I made 450 with a box stock set of 243's next year I will have Alex's old heads and cam the 4x ( worked 243's) setup from cartek in my Camaro. And I have a few more tricks up my sleeve to get more power then what Alex put down. Keep your eyes open kids I will be flying next year.
I can wait to tear into the blue ss...

You better plan on hurting some feelings this spring with those junk 243s, haha

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