Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Recommend a cam please

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-01-2011, 01:30 PM
  #1  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
 
mrgto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Taunton MA
Posts: 371
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Recommend a cam please

I'm transplanting a LS1/T56 from a 04 GTO into a '66 GTO. IT will weigh around 3900lbs with AC and a 3:55 rear. I'd like a bit more get up and go over the stocker but nothing too radical. It will have headers as well.

Should I replace the stock heads with some ported ones while I have the engine out? Or would just a cam/spring change get me to say 350 RWHP?

Thanks.
Old 01-01-2011, 01:40 PM
  #2  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (13)
 
jc98ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
LS1Tech 10 Year
Default

350rwhp should be fairly easy to reach, even with stock heads....i would say tsp 224r or 228r
Old 01-01-2011, 01:43 PM
  #3  
On The Tree
iTrader: (6)
 
STREETSLEEPER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Acworth Georgia
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

An ls1 with a stock intake, stock heads, a Torquer v2 and a set of good long tubes will net you right at 400 HP to the wheels. So I would think a 222 or 224 or a split would net you 350 to the wheels with gobs of low end torque. This cam in a six speed could drive like stock set up. Hell my car drives like a bone stock car except for the idle. HE HE I would even recommend something like a 228. That's really a tame cam. To much in fear cam size. Find a good tuner and you can put anything in there you want. After he's done it'll drive like a new one with a lope. Give Texas Speed a call they put you right on the right cam.

Last edited by STREETSLEEPER; 01-01-2011 at 01:57 PM.
Old 01-01-2011, 01:44 PM
  #4  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
98z8uup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Covington ,GA
Posts: 1,111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Something around 224-228 range should get you to your 350hp at the wheels. Just talk to some o the sponsors, and they will help you out. A lot of guys will say go custom, but you can find a shelf cam that will meet your goals. If you have it in your budget to get the heads ported. Go ahead if they are 241 heads.
Old 01-01-2011, 03:07 PM
  #5  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (96)
 
01ssreda4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Turnin' Wrenches Infractions: 005
Posts: 24,241
Likes: 0
Received 81 Likes on 72 Posts

Default

TR224 or TR230 would be nice or something similar from TSP or Cam Motion. With your gearing and weight, I think I would stay in the 220s to help keep the low end power there. Also, I would look into a stepped header as the smaller primaries tend to build better midrange at the expense of a few ponies up top. I used to run a 1 1/2 stepped to 1 3/4 and the low/midrange was awesome.
Old 01-01-2011, 06:34 PM
  #6  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
RT.66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Tolland Ct.
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have a stock 2001 Z28 with add on parts only, c.i.a long tube headers etc. All I did was get a dyno tune and I'm pushing 348 to the rear wheels.
Old 01-01-2011, 09:26 PM
  #7  
TECH Senior Member
 
garygnu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,446
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

look at some EPS cams,they make good power under the curve.or look at a comp LSr cam 54-455-11,great torque for heavier cars .
Old 01-03-2011, 04:05 PM
  #8  
FormerVendor
iTrader: (15)
 
SNLPerformance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Ft. Worth, TX
Posts: 3,337
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

that LS1 is going to look tiny after pulling out the 455 lol, but love the old/new school combo. Our v2 cam is a torque monster and would complement ported heads well, feel free to give us a call at 817-750-2000 to discuss things further. Thanks, Chris
Old 01-03-2011, 06:06 PM
  #9  
TECH Addict
 
brian_rs/ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Texas/Afghanistan
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

2nd for eps. 224r is a nice cam too. but i like the feedback heard from the eps cams.

do the 222/226 .597/.598 113 lsa.

don't forget you need comp magnum push rods, comp 918 valve springs, and an ls2 timing set.(at least) if the car is going to see any kind of abuse i would recommend comp 850-16 lifters, melling 10296 hv oil pump, patriot dual valve springs and possibly harland sharp roller rockers.

Last edited by brian_rs/ss; 01-03-2011 at 06:12 PM.
Old 01-03-2011, 07:10 PM
  #10  
On The Tree
iTrader: (5)
 
TA63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by mrgto
I'm transplanting a LS1/T56 from a 04 GTO into a '66 GTO. IT will weigh around 3900lbs with AC and a 3:55 rear. I'd like a bit more get up and go over the stocker but nothing too radical. It will have headers as well.

Should I replace the stock heads with some ported ones while I have the engine out? Or would just a cam/spring change get me to say 350 RWHP?

Thanks.
Sounds like a fun project. Why are ya pulling the 455?
Old 01-03-2011, 07:51 PM
  #11  
TECH Addict
 
brian_rs/ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Texas/Afghanistan
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

most likely the reason why anybody would, ls motors are lighter and more economical. he probably wants something he can hop in, fire up and go on long cruises with no fuss and decent mileage.
Old 01-03-2011, 08:33 PM
  #12  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (14)
 
MYSTIC-1SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,277
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Give Texas Speed a call and take a look at the 228r. It should get well beyond your 350rwhp and have great drivability as well.
Old 01-03-2011, 09:40 PM
  #13  
TECH Addict
 
brian_rs/ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Texas/Afghanistan
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

i was at 373 rwhp with a ls1 intake stock everything except lid and exhaust with a 224r. and more torque than my tires knew what to do with
Old 01-04-2011, 02:12 AM
  #14  
On The Tree
iTrader: (5)
 
TA63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by brian_rs/ss
most likely the reason why anybody would, ls motors are lighter and more economical. he probably wants something he can hop in, fire up and go on long cruises with no fuss and decent mileage.
An E head 455 pontiac is easily capable of putting down 550 plus hp and as many ft/lbs of torque NA. LS motors are great, but in a classic car, give me the old iron. Either way, I was just curious. Good luck OP.
Old 01-04-2011, 04:05 AM
  #15  
Captain Double Post
iTrader: (2)
 
BOBS99SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Elyria Ohio
Posts: 1,617
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

,Agree classic car I would also take the old iron,but that's just me,I love the ls motors,but maybe he has another goal in mind,who wants a 455 66 gto putting out 500 hp? (Me) when you can make 350 with a ls1 and get great gas mileage lol,I believe I saw in a mag west coast customs did a 60s gto with a new goats int,and a ls3 s/c was really nice,
Old 01-04-2011, 02:11 PM
  #16  
On The Tree
iTrader: (5)
 
TA63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by BOBS99SS
,Agree classic car I would also take the old iron,but that's just me,I love the ls motors,but maybe he has another goal in mind,who wants a 455 66 gto putting out 500 hp? (Me) when you can make 350 with a ls1 and get great gas mileage lol,I believe I saw in a mag west coast customs did a 60s gto with a new goats int,and a ls3 s/c was really nice,
I definately appreciate the work it takes to swap a new drivetrain into the old iron and understand the benefits. But, I have an old Trans-Am and when the time comes, it will be an aluminum headed 468ci pontiac engine putting down 550-600 hp. I think with a TH400 and a gear vendors overdrive unit, mileage might even be reasonable.
Old 01-04-2011, 06:24 PM
  #17  
On The Tree
 
01 Bad Mutha F*****'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canada (across the river from DETROIT)
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SNLPerformance
that LS1 is going to look tiny after pulling out the 455 lol, but love the old/new school combo. Our v2 cam is a torque monster and would complement ported heads well, feel free to give us a call at 817-750-2000 to discuss things further. Thanks, Chris
Interested in what cams you guys sell. Checked your web site looking for specs and couldn't locate any cams.
Old 01-05-2011, 12:18 AM
  #18  
ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™
iTrader: (18)
 
orangeapeel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Justin, TX
Posts: 16,083
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 01 Bad ***** F*****
Interested in what cams you guys sell. Checked your web site looking for specs and couldn't locate any cams.
Best way to find out is to call up there and talk to Steve, Matt or Chris. Pretty much anyone that answers the ph.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:03 PM.