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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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ok 02form...that makes sense..based on my description it could be that its burning oil from somewhere then huh
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u posted while i was typing, but yeah O2form is right. If its not using coolant its not a blown headgasket. does the oil look good and has it used any. with all the leaks it may be difficult to determine if youre losing any oil from leaks or if the motor is burning it.
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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is your ses light ONLY the knock sensor code?
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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yeah the oil looks good...its never looked milky or anything of that sort...and no I haven't noticed any loss of power...she seems the same to me to be honest.
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yeah i keep getting the same code and its only for the knock sensor...nothing else ever comes up...its P0332

you think its possible vibrations from the exhaust are triggering the code since the ypipe does bang against the floorboard sometimes; at least thats what a friend had suggested...but i don't know how valid of a statement that is

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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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its not really to be honest. It picks up internal engine knocks. Im super curious now. I really dont think you have a big problem. I think id replace all the valve seals and go ahead with the ls6 springs while you have the stockers out and start there. if it still does it with the overheating the rings may be bad.
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here's a dyno pull from March of 2008...she hasn't been modified since...she ran lean

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if it still overheats the rings may be bad? did i read that correctly? because its no longer overheating...i've just about had it with the SES light too...i'm on the verge of taking it somewhere and have them figure it out and fix it.
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no if it is still smoking after the valve seals are replaced the rings may be bad. Overheating the motor can take the tension out of the rings. If it previously got to hot and took the tension out it could be seeping oil into the combustion chamber. But usually weak rings would yield a noticeable loss of power. I'm a little stumped right now but let me think about it for a while.
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oh ok i see...for sure...thanks man
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yeah good luck and keep us posted. Im determined to figure this out. Anything else its done wierd could be helpful too, but so far thats my best guess
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Ok so I'm gonna check the coolant level over the next few days and see if there are any changes...I'll replace valve stem seals and the valve cover gaskets and let you know what happens...I don't know when I'll be able to get to it though since I'm getting married in less than 3 weeks and I hardly have time for anything...also i am not ruling out your worst case scenario of bad piston rings but i dont think thats it since it started blowing smoke way before it ever overheated on me and like you said i have never noticed a loss in power...but anyway I'll post up here the results and I'll pm you whiteaw57...thanks for the help.
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No prob man congrats on getting married. I really wanna figure this one out. a great way to check if it is valve seals is take it up to 5500 rpm of so in third or fourth gear and just let it fall. and see if it smokes alot. When you create that much vacuum it will pull any air/liquid it can and youll see it in the exhaust. Good luck, pm me anytime
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thanks man and ok i'll do just that and post the result hopefully by today...btw a while back when i changed my spark plugs the one further back on the drivers side had some oil on it. If i remember correctly it didn't have oil on the electrode but I can always go back and pull it out to be absolutely sure. I don't know if this helps you any in trying to figure this out.
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Humm, you've got me stumped too. There are a couple thing off the bat the seem off to me.

1. Valve covers really shouldnt leak. They dont really have oil sitting on them... as 1 they are vertical, and 2 they arent under oil... oil just splashes up inside the head. It would seem more likely to me that it would be coming from the intake, and seeping down the side of the head... then pooling up between the head and the valley cover. As the valley cover also shouldnt leak for the same reason.

2. I read all the posts, but dont think you answered the question as to WHEN it smokes. Are you just sitting, or is it at WOT? How often? and how much smoke (do you see a little in the rearview or are you smoing out the guy behind you)? As this will make a big difference.

3. You would know it if it was burning coolant as its a distinct sweet smell. So Id rule that out.


It sounds to me like your getting oil into the combustion chamber, which in small amounts isnt a huge deal. My guess would be that its got something to do with the vacuume. Having had the intake off several times im wondering if something happened with the evap system. Something not plugged in correctly? Lines swapped?

Have you had the tune looked at? Did it start smoking shortly after the last tune? Could be as simple as running rich.
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i thought for a while that it could just be rich as well, especially when he said it did it just sitting there idling. when you smell the smoke does it smell like terrible exhaust fumes? Im leaning toward valve seals or evap. Rings being an absolute last thing to check obviously. It would run bad if the rings were slack.
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Originally Posted by L3THAL_Z28
thanks man and ok i'll do just that and post the result hopefully by today...btw a while back when i changed my spark plugs the one further back on the drivers side had some oil on it. If i remember correctly it didn't have oil on the electrode but I can always go back and pull it out to be absolutely sure. I don't know if this helps you any in trying to figure this out.
Im thinking this could be your whole problem. Try doing a compression test on your motor. If you have oil on your sparkplug you could have a bad ring. You need to do a compression test.

1. Get a compression test gauge and fitting for your sparkplug hole.

2. Disconect your fuel pump fuse or fuel pump relay.

3. Pull ur spark plugs

4. Screw your compression test gauge into the spark plug hole

5. Let the engine crank over 4-5 times and watch the gauge. Your number should be between 130-160. Pay close attention to the cylnder that had oil on the spark plug. If it is low like 115 or less than poor a little oil in the cylnder, screw your gauge back in, crank the car 4-5 times and watch ur gauge. If your numbers went up, than you have a bad piston ring. If the number stayed the same and is still low, you need to check the heads...
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Originally Posted by L3THAL_Z28
thanks man and ok i'll do just that and post the result hopefully by today...btw a while back when i changed my spark plugs the one further back on the drivers side had some oil on it. If i remember correctly it didn't have oil on the electrode but I can always go back and pull it out to be absolutely sure. I don't know if this helps you any in trying to figure this out.
Hmm that unlucky #7 piston. Sounds like the rings are bad. Have you noticed blowby coming out when you open the oil cap with the car running? #7 piston is common for that. A lot of times a piece of the ring land is broken too. Pull the heads and check.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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start with the compression test first. no need to pull the head just ye. I wanna eliminate everything first and see if you cant sort this out simply and cheaply.
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2. I read all the posts, but dont think you answered the question as to WHEN it smokes. Are you just sitting, or is it at WOT? How often? and how much smoke (do you see a little in the rearview or are you smoing out the guy behind you)? As this will make a big difference.

It sounds to me like your getting oil into the combustion chamber, which in small amounts isnt a huge deal. My guess would be that its got something to do with the vacuume. Having had the intake off several times im wondering if something happened with the evap system. Something not plugged in correctly? Lines swapped?

Have you had the tune looked at? Did it start smoking shortly after the last tune? Could be as simple as running rich.
I see the smoke at idle but only if i'm out of the car...it smokes very little at idle on a regular day...revved her up to about 5500 yesterday and it smoked a little more than idle but would go back to its previous state within 4-5 seconds.

i'm pretty sure i've corrected everything correctly...my friend did snap a line one time that we don't know where it goes on the passenger side...he kinda taped it up...been meaning to fix it...also another line by the fuel rail on the passenger side (the one wrapped in foam) snapped last time i pulled the intake...but the car was smoking prior to that line snapping.

the tune is stock...i was waiting to buy an LS6 intake before the getting it dyno tune. Last dyno tune she ran lean...could it have changed? dyno sheet is a few posts up.

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i thought for a while that it could just be rich as well, especially when he said it did it just sitting there idling. when you smell the smoke does it smell like terrible exhaust fumes? Im leaning toward valve seals or evap. Rings being an absolute last thing to check obviously. It would run bad if the rings were slack.
its not a terrible smell...not running cats but it doesn't smell like gas

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Hmm that unlucky #7 piston. Sounds like the rings are bad. Have you noticed blowby coming out when you open the oil cap with the car running? #7 piston is common for that. A lot of times a piece of the ring land is broken too. Pull the heads and check.
haven't checked that but i will do so tomorrow evening.
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