228r 112lsa vs 110lsa
228r 112lsa vs 110lsa I really want the cam for 1/4 mile gains and I don't want to spin the motor past 6400 rpm. So would the 110lsa bring torque in sooner and not have to be reved as high? How much more cammed will it sound with the 110lsa instead of the 112? Anybody running it on 110?
This should also help with a comparison to other cams
228/228 114 lsa = 0* overlap
228/228 112 lsa = 4* overlap
228/228 110 lsa = 8* overlap
232/232 112 lsa = 8* overlap
236/236 114 lsa = 8* overlap
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228/228 114 lsa = 0* overlap
228/228 112 lsa = 4* overlap
228/228 110 lsa = 8* overlap
232/232 112 lsa = 8* overlap
236/236 114 lsa = 8* overlap
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Thanks guys. And thanks alot 99bluz28 for pm'ing me the document on effects of the lca. It really makes ALOT more sense now and is really making me lean towards 110 lsa. The smaller the lsa the higher maximum torque you will have, the torque will come in sooner, you will have a more narrow powerband, but the stall should help me with that and lastly it will have a meaner cam sound.
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I'm at work so I can't post the link but if you search on my post you will find a video of my 228R @ 112LSA at idle and on the dyno.
Added Link 3/30/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-1ykSD9WO8
Added Link 3/30/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-1ykSD9WO8
Last edited by Paul 75 L82; Mar 30, 2011 at 06:51 PM. Reason: add link
I would get it on 112 but thats me, i dont think that cam needs a 110 lsa to work well in out cars which is why you dont see many people doing it. If it was that much more beneficial to have it on 110 you would see more people doing it. Just food for thought.
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I have this cam on a 114 LSA and love it.
Went that route for the spray. Still sounds like a beast when its loping. Just remember that if you ever choose to spray/boost it, you will pickup less power from the same shot/boost with less LSA. Less LSA will bleed off more cylinder pressure, so you won't see the same gains from a 100 shot on a 110 LSA as you would from a 114 LSA.
Personally I would go with the 112 LSA if I were you, its a happy medium and still boost/spray friendly.
Went that route for the spray. Still sounds like a beast when its loping. Just remember that if you ever choose to spray/boost it, you will pickup less power from the same shot/boost with less LSA. Less LSA will bleed off more cylinder pressure, so you won't see the same gains from a 100 shot on a 110 LSA as you would from a 114 LSA.
Personally I would go with the 112 LSA if I were you, its a happy medium and still boost/spray friendly.
I was in your boat a while ago. 110,112,114 were my choices. I went with 112 being the middle because I liked the lope sound obviously and I wanted the torque curve to come in a little earlier. I plan to run nitrous this year on it as well. I really don't think you would notice much between a 110 & 112 lsa on this size of a cam, if it was a bigger cam like a ms4, trex, etc... then I would go with a 110 or so sure, but for this medium size I personally love the 112. I'm a m6 though also so not sure if that would make a difference, and I have 4.10s
The 112 is better used in an auto the 110 will make the car lobe harder and a little more difficult to get a good solid idle with the load of the torque converter (even though its a 3400 stall) at rest it will make it harder for the tuner to get it not to stall. I think the 112 woulld be a great selection.
The 112 is better used in an auto the 110 will make the car lobe harder and a little more difficult to get a good solid idle with the load of the torque converter (even though its a 3400 stall) at rest it will make it harder for the tuner to get it not to stall. I think the 112 woulld be a great selection.
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My tuner wouldn't set the idle any lower than 800rpm on my Auto, and it still sounds beast.
loud exhaust also really opens up how much chop you hear, you could get a 228/232 on 112 and it will have a little more chop then the 228.
Mines at 950rpm and still sounds good.
Ok so wait. A lower lsa brings your torque in sooner and you don't have to rap it up as high. So what if I got a torquer v.2 cam and got it on 110 lsa? Than it would have more power because of the higher lift and more torque with the lower lsa? Or does that not make any since?