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Old 04-10-2011, 05:16 PM
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Oil looked perfect by the way.... So I pulled the heads and intake. To find that all 8 pistons had one single valve hit. no bent push rods, and no head or valve damage... So after close inspection, there is no piston damage. Just a shallow indent of a valve on each. Now im pulling the trans to inspect the clutch carnage...
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Is damage in bellhousing area in the tranny or engine bellhousings....or both? If its the tranny and you have the removable bellhousing then you might just have to pull the tranny and replace the bolt on housing after you de-fk your clutch....and dont forget to change your windshield wiper blades too. If its your engine bellhousing then you might wanna be searching for a block! OUCH!
Sounds like your clutch didnt like the 8000rpm's......

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I would pull the timing cover and inspect the timing set. And chances are if you slapped valves you are going to need work, if it just slightly bent a valve they probably dammaged the head...
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Since the heads are off now, might as well get them worked over and get a cam now too. You're already into the motor, go for it.
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Gentleman you might want to read the OP's #11 post....

"I cant beleave it, I have holes all around in my bellhousing.. like something let loose and rotated just bashing around inside the bell housing clutch area??"

He needs to pull that tranny and see if the engine blocks bellhousing is fragged or cracked. Why waste any money or time on the engine....that might be a boat anchor or atleast a good candidate to be melted down and recast as one anyway.
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Have you pulled the trans yet?
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Damn, missed that one... Might be a salvageable motor for a few miles, I have a friend that did something similar, so he did a home job fly cut and rocked it. Did fine for a long time.
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Ok, Trans is on the ground.. **** me! what a pain in the ***. I had to hammer a screw driver up the side to split the driver side dowel area. Spliting the trans from the engine took me 2 hours of fighting and violence.. lol

The trans damage was caused by a bolt that came completely out of the flywheel. It was a pressure plate bolt. After tear down of the top half of the engine, and removing the trans. I turned the crank over a few times by hand and its money! Im very happy about that..

So far I know I need:

New:
T56 bell housing
New Clutch kit
Flywheel
All the Gaskets
Better Heads, assembled
Probly should do better lifters
push rods
Timing Chain
Cam

I cant think of a good reason to put stock parts back on anything....
While all my **** is ripped apart, I may as well go big!!
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Good deal! Bellhousing is for tranny is alot cheaper than having to buy a whole motor! You can get that bellhousing from just about any salvage yard.

Try here for a search across the U.S. ! Most salvage yards ship anywhere.

http://www.car-parts.com
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congrats now build it bigger and badder good luck
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So now you need to get some P&P LS6 243 heads, Fast 92/92 set up, some custom cam and get a Textrallia Z Grip clutch
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
So now you need to get some P&P LS6 243 heads, Fast 92/92 set up, some custom cam and get a Textrallia Z Grip clutch

AI has 226 intake runner program for 243s which are the ones I have. Also if you are tight with cash get an LS2 intake manifold and have it ported by LS2 portworks, Cory knows his SH** and he did mine.

The clutch well am dumb on that cause I have an A4 lol

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Whatever you end up going with make sure you have the correct tq sequence and specs on the next flywheel.
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Man thats alot of work you just did...
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My hands look and feel terrible. My wife said they look like a weed whacked got them.. lol
I've gotta do my research now toward all the parts. Its a shame im broke as ***.....
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Not to be a downer but that's the bad part about beating on a car that's your only ride or don't have a way to fix it. There's many ways to get out cheaper than BUILDING the engine but remember. Pick 2 - cheap, fast, reliable. If you engine is good, leave it alone. You can get a stock clutch setup for <$400. Also after you get the clutch in, it REQUIRES a break in period. I know you're gonna hot rod it even if you go with the cheapest parts you can find but Atleast don't smoke the clutch after you put it in.
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If your trying to keep it on the cheap side but still have a good reliable combo you could do some stock 799's or 243s for around 400 bucks then get a decent cam spec'd by Patrick G or Geoff, for the clutch you could just get an ls7 which is around 450 to the wheels maybe even a tad more. With that combo you should be thumping down around 425 to the wheels which would be one fun ride and budget friendly atleast in the cam mod world lol
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I've got the scratch, it just not a priority to my wife. Im sure u all can relate. So if it sits for a few weeks. I guess that's life. It will be done right. That im sure of.. good heads. Violent cam.. strong clutch kit. If I gotta wait for a few weeks to get all the good ****. Ill wait. To me its worth the wait to great...lol
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Originally Posted by stunna p
I've got the scratch, it just not a priority to my wife. Im sure u all can relate. So if it sits for a few weeks. I guess that's life. It will be done right. That im sure of.. good heads. Violent cam.. strong clutch kit. If I gotta wait for a few weeks to get all the good ****. Ill wait. To me its worth the wait to great...lol
That's what MAD CASH is for my friend. In my case my wife is at home when the stuff comes in, so naturally she's gonna ask. But the stuff I can get local. MAD CASH baby..... You know. The cash if she knew you had, she'd be mad......
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Sorry but i cannot relate......The X-wife is a X for a reason! Make sure the GF understands she is replaceable........ The woman goes BEFORE the car does.


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