Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Broken head bolt in ls1 block

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:28 AM
  #1  
thunderstruck507's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,358
Likes: 27
From: Northwest AR
Default Broken head bolt in ls1 block

A friend has a 02 ls1 with a broke head bolt. One of the long bolts broke nearly all the way down in the hole and the previous owner just put the engine back together that way.

The machine shop my friend took it to told him he couldn't get the bolt out, get a new block.

I think this sounds a little ridiculous. What do you guys think?

This might sound stupid, but would there be a way to fix it? Maybe have the hole welded up and tapped for a later short style bolt or maybe even install head studs and have that one permanently installed or something? Likely not good for a nitrous or boosted car, but a head/cam N/A one?



Reason I'm asking is because if they don't want to mess with it, I was offered the block for scrap metal price. Being a cheap 02 block it would be better for a rebuild than my 98 block if the head bolt issue can be resolved.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:12 AM
  #2  
mark21742's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,481
Likes: 5
From: PA/MD
Default

I'd check with a few other shops, they someone "should" be able to get the rest of that bolt out and clean the threads in the block.....but I wouldn't leave any of it in there
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:22 AM
  #3  
joecar's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,080
Likes: 17
From: So.Cal.
Default

Using a sleeve for guiding the drill bit, the bolt end can be drilled out, and new threads installed using the J-42385 thread tools/inserts, see attached.

Threads repaired like this using the steel thread insert are stronger than the original aluminum threads (some people replace all the threads with inserts).
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
Thread Repair Procedure.pdf (321.3 KB, 1743 views)
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:52 AM
  #4  
thunderstruck507's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,358
Likes: 27
From: Northwest AR
Default

I asked and he said they tried putting a drill on the milling machine but the bolt is broken with a jagged edge so the bit would walk.

I've heard of people dropping in sockets as a guide, but if its too jagged I don't know if that would work.

I guess the price will dictate whether I want to mess with it. Seems it would need to be under $100 or so to be worth messing with since I've seen blocks sell for $150-200 around here and down in Texas where I could easily get one.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 11:03 AM
  #5  
mark21742's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,481
Likes: 5
From: PA/MD
Default

I ended up using an iron deburring bit with the round tip to take the jagged edge off of the tap that I broke off in the hole where I drilled the broken exhaust bolt out of my father's dodge
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:20 PM
  #6  
XtraCajunSS's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,954
Likes: 4
From: Baton Rouge, LA, USA
Default

This is not a difficult repair for a competent machine shop. The jagged edge can be machined flat then the bolt can be drilled out.

Shouldn't cost more than $100-$200.

Shane
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2011 | 05:19 PM
  #7  
OldCobraGuy's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 481
Likes: 3
Default

^^^

Absolutely! Maybe you should tell us who told you to get a new block so we can avoid that place.

Did he by chance have a block for sale??
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2011 | 10:04 PM
  #8  
BADD SS's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 1
From: Baldwin, NY
Default

Originally Posted by XtraCajunSS
This is not a difficult repair for a competent machine shop. The jagged edge can be machined flat then the bolt can be drilled out.

Shouldn't cost more than $100-$200.

Shane


^ this, although it would be $200-250 in my shop... Prices up here are a bit more...
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 02:00 PM
  #9  
427LS7HCI's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 274
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
A friend has a 02 ls1 with a broke head bolt. One of the long bolts broke nearly all the way down in the hole and the previous owner just put the engine back together that way.

The machine shop my friend took it to told him he couldn't get the bolt out, get a new block.

I think this sounds a little ridiculous. What do you guys think?

This might sound stupid, but would there be a way to fix it? Maybe have the hole welded up and tapped for a later short style bolt or maybe even install head studs and have that one permanently installed or something? Likely not good for a nitrous or boosted car, but a head/cam N/A one?



Reason I'm asking is because if they don't want to mess with it, I was offered the block for scrap metal price. Being a cheap 02 block it would be better for a rebuild than my 98 block if the head bolt issue can be resolved.

With that head bolt being broke the entire time, did the head gasket ever leak or car overheat?
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 02:44 PM
  #10  
wildcamaro's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,501
Likes: 4
From: Western PA
Default

Search for the "time sert" thread on here it has some great info that would really help you out...
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:16 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE