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Old 08-04-2011 | 11:32 PM
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Old 08-04-2011 | 11:35 PM
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This threads already helped me out tremendously, it's exactly the type of cam threads I'm interested in. Good thread OP, thx for posting! Subscribing...
Old 08-04-2011 | 11:42 PM
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No problem. I made this thread to help people and myself. To many people to on du.o numbers or don't have the correct set up for a big cam. My set up works awesome. The car rips pretty sambhar well, it just not for me. Glad this thread has helped you out!
Old 08-04-2011 | 11:44 PM
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Damn auto correct. What the Hell is sambhar? Lol
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Old 08-05-2011 | 12:31 PM
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What did your car dyno? Do you have a printout? I would like to see what it's doing through the powerband. Im guessing your heads are home ported? I have personally seen "worked" "ported&polished" home ported heads just fall flat on their face because of the port job. It's not just about taking material out of a port, it's knowing where and how much to take out. Every trex cam car I have driven and owned pulls hard throughout the rpm band. But then again I had "true" supporting mods.
Old 08-05-2011 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmos
The heads are not affecting the lowend. The car runs very strong, it just doesnt have the low end that my other cams have had.



I know what your saying. I said that to ward off anyone who wanted to mentain you know who. Almost every cam I see him spec is the same.

I heard Shawn at VA is pretty damn good but he never answers my pms. Also thinking about talking with Futral. I know Ed Curtis is pretty good as well.

I got the TRex in trade and wanted to see if I would like a big cam since I would have the proper set up to run one (gears, upped compression etc) over my low end specd cam. I want something in the middle lol.



I totally agree with you. Great post. Thats why I made this thread to see REAL world experiences. I dont give a damn about numbers or how the cam sounds. Wondering about real world power bands.

Heres what Im thinking

235/239 LSL 111+4

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236/238 xfi/xer 111+4
Both of those cams are a step in the right direction, but I'm not sure if they go far enough to make your street driving enjoyable again. The T-Rex has 25 degrees of overlap at .050" while your proposed cams have 15 degrees of overlap. I like to limit daily driven LS1s to around 7 degrees of overlap at .050", but if this is more of a toy, you can go a little bit bigger.

Since you're only needing to carry power strongly to 6.5K, you don't really need to extend the exhaust duration past 235-236 at .050". You could go 234/236 XE-R or 235/235 LSL and go 112LSA +4 advance. This will give you 11 degrees of overlap at .050" and an intake valve closing point around 45 degrees ABDC at .050".
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Old 08-05-2011 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cause4panic
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For those who don't have the Comp catalog memorized, he was referring to a 231/239 .617/.627" 113LSA +4 advance cam ground with LSL lobes.
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Old 08-05-2011 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dgcustomz
But then again I had "true" supporting mods.
Can you elaborate more on your "true" supporting mods vs his setup?
Old 08-05-2011 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dgcustomz
What did your car dyno? Do you have a printout? I would like to see what it's doing through the powerband. Im guessing your heads are home ported? I have personally seen "worked" "ported&polished" home ported heads just fall flat on their face because of the port job. It's not just about taking material out of a port, it's knowing where and how much to take out. Every trex cam car I have driven and owned pulls hard throughout the rpm band. But then again I had "true" supporting mods.
I have not had the car dyno'd yet. The heads are home ported. I said the car runs strong. Very strong in fact. Im not complaining about the power the car makes, it just doesnt have the low rpm power I look for in a cam. Its the nature of the cam. I had a friend with a MS3, pro ported heads and that car acted the same way for the most part.

Can you elaborate more on your "true" supporting mods vs his setup?
Id like to know as well. 4.30s, 59cc heads, ported heads and full 3 inch exhaust sound like true mods to me.

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Old 08-05-2011 | 02:33 PM
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Even stock ls1s don't feel like they come alive until about 3000rpm. My cam is pretty small but 3500rpm is where it really starts to pick up.

But I would imagine a cam as big as yours feels even softer in comparison since it would pull so much harder up top.

Looks like some good suggestions from Patrick G, I would listen to him. He had a very good thread a while back about a torque monster cam you might also look into.
Old 08-05-2011 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Since you're only needing to carry power strongly to 6.5K, you don't really need to extend the exhaust duration past 235-236 at .050". You could go 234/236 XE-R or 235/235 LSL and go 112LSA +4 advance. This will give you 11 degrees of overlap at .050" and an intake valve closing point around 45 degrees ABDC at .050".
I put about 4k miles on it every summer. Basically I want to optimize the ls6 intake with my current set up. I refuse to buy a FAST.

Both of those cams are a step in the right direction, but I'm not sure if they go far enough to make your street driving enjoyable again
If I can lower the start of the powerband by 1k, I would be happy. If I am in the correct gear the car has power everywhere for the most part, but the problem is if Im in 3rd and at 3k, the car wont start to really pull until 4k. I hate to say it, but if the TRex is in a higher gear with a lower RPM, it acts like Vtec. If you have every driven a vtec car you know what Im talking about.

I really do enjoy the 4k+ pull of the TRex. Its pretty damn fun


Thanks for turning this into a great thread guys!!!
Old 08-05-2011 | 06:55 PM
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Great advice/info, as usual, from Pat G! I failed to mention that he spec'd out my L92 headed, 408 for me. I still have yet to get the engine running, but I know I will be impressed with the results, as I was honest with myself as far as my plans and expectations are concerned, for my vehicle.
Old 08-08-2011 | 11:25 AM
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Getting a custom spec as we speak! Im going to dyno the TRex then sell it. Hoping to have everything ready in a months time

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Old 08-08-2011 | 11:49 AM
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Pats cam suggestions are exactly where you wanna be...especially since you
have the 4.30 gears. I was gonna suggest the TSP torquer V3 as you seemed
against the other 3 letter vendor
Old 08-08-2011 | 09:43 PM
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I was gonna suggest the TSP torquer V3 as you seemed against the other 3 letter vendor
What are you talking about?
Old 08-08-2011 | 10:55 PM
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[QUOTE=Cosmos;15233723]I dont wanna pay someone to give me a cam they recommended to 80 other people on tech.

It seems they either have 3 different cam specs they give out, recommend a off the shelf cam (which can be great) or they just dont answer your pms.

I know what your saying. I said that to ward off anyone who wanted to mentain you know who. Almost every cam I see him spec is the same.

Originally Posted by Cosmos
What are you talking about?
Perhaps my math is wrong but it would seem that 2+2+2=6
Old 08-08-2011 | 11:01 PM
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look at a ed curtis streetsweeper cam,or get a custom cam form the cam guys on here.
Old 08-08-2011 | 11:19 PM
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glad u didnt just toss the raptr cam in, it works ok with a ls6 intake FAST intake helps it thou(plus it pullls much farther then 65k depending where u setup your rev limiter)! The comp lsr 231 239 mentioned above is also a great cam.


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