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Old 09-18-2011, 09:34 PM
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Damian's right that the 3.898" bore cannot adecuetly unshroud the 2.05 valve
and this as well as the milling adds to your PTV issues. He also wants you to
properly match the springs to the cam as this is a VERY important part to the
sucess of an LS engine. I'm just guessing that the 2 sets of springs you have
are either too light or too aggressive for what your cam needs. The PSI ML
springs are real nice for under $200. No-one wants you to later have a WTF
thread.
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I understand about the valves and milling causing PTV issues thats why im gotta measure the best I can. And im only trying to use one of the set of springs I have to save a couple hundred dollars
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If installed at correct height, PAC 1218 will control those valves and that cam.
That cam is XER and .588 lift.
Specs on 1218 are:
Part # O.D. I.D. Seat Load Open Load Coil Bind Rate (Lbs/In)
1218 1.290 .885 130@1.800 318@1.200 1.140 313

Also it is not necessary to put 2.05 valves for the return it gives, there is no huge issues with them on a 346cid.

Important:
1- Measure PTV clearance
2- Measure for p-rod length
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
If installed at correct height, PAC 1218 will control those valves and that cam.
That cam is XER and .588 lift.
Specs on 1218 are:
Part # O.D. I.D. Seat Load Open Load Coil Bind Rate (Lbs/In)
1218 1.290 .885 130@1.800 318@1.200 1.140 313

Also it is not necessary to put 2.05 valves for the return it gives, there is no huge issues with them on a 346cid.

Important:
1- Measure PTV clearance
2- Measure for p-rod length
Good info but were'nt the 977s machined for each specific head the were installed on? Meaning I can't just install another set of springs on these heads
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Originally Posted by Damian
I never paid much attention to Absolute stuff, that's why I said in my previous post that there's too many unknown variables.

A 2.05 intake valve on a stock 346ci engine is silly anyway.
what about a 2.04 valve
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Originally Posted by chrs1313
what about a 2.04 valve
A 2.165 hollow turned down to 2.04 in a 13 degree combustion chamber
seems to um' work for ya
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Originally Posted by oldguy99Z
Some interresting stuff in Damians post but I have point out something about the chamber size of 5.3 heads.Damian is forgetting that the chambers in ported 5.3 heads are not the stock 61 cc chambers.When the big intake vavles are put in the chambers are opened up around them.I think a lot of these heads are 63 cc unmilled-my ETP 5.3 heads are 64 cc unmilled.That is why .030 off would be 58cc.

I have a set of TEA ported 5.3 heads. They have been shaved .030 and they are at 59cc so I would say that is accurate.

When I bought my heads they had the 977 springs on them and after reading about them I pitched them and went with 921's which is probably a little overkill for what I'm doing but they are really nice springs.


If you change to a single spring you will have to change seat locators because of the difference in the outer diameter.
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
A 2.165 hollow turned down to 2.04 in a 13 degree combustion chamber
seems to um' work for ya
haha nice

yeah seems to be okay over here...

but they are 13.5* lol
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UPDATE!!! I finally finished this install and the car runs great. Havent had it dyno tuned yet but for a frost mail order tune it runs and sounds great. 11.6 compression is sex on wheels!



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