ms3 cam
10-12-2011, 04:11 AM
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A 228 will be a great cam for a stock head full exhaust car. In the LS cam world it is not the bigger the cam the better 100% of the time. I'd be willing to say that 90% of the time a well thought out setup smaller cammed car will beat a "donkey dong" cammed car where the cam was just shoved in there and let it go. Ask me how I have 3 people that I have raced with what I would call "donkey dong" cams get beat by my small 224 cammed car and they just scratch there heads. All I ever get is "how did I lose my car has a bigger cam and makes more power" I just say bigger ain't always better.
10-12-2011, 01:33 PM
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As long as we're on the topic and the OP seems to have gotten his answer, how about some insight on my MS3/112 setup? My engine will have the following, LS6 with 243 heads, fresh 5 angle valve job, LS2 timing chain, Katech rod bolts, 1 7/8 long tube headers, complete custom 3 inch stainless exhaust with cut outs, FAST 92 intake. Throttle body is to be determined & I'll probably send the ECM to TSP for tuning. Car will be under 3000 lbs, rear gear is 3.38:1
Edit: I Also have PRC .650 springs & Comp Cams Trunion kit.
Edit: I Also have PRC .650 springs & Comp Cams Trunion kit.
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10-12-2011, 02:42 PM
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As long as we're on the topic and the OP seems to have gotten his answer, how about some insight on my MS3/112 setup? My engine will have the following, LS6 with 243 heads, fresh 5 angle valve job, LS2 timing chain, Katech rod bolts, 1 7/8 long tube headers, complete custom 3 inch stainless exhaust with cut outs, FAST 92 intake. Th
rottle body is to be determined & I'll probably send the ECM to TSP for tuning. Car will be under 3000 lbs, rear gear is 3.38:1
Edit: I Also have PRC .650 springs & Comp Cams Trunion kit.
rottle body is to be determined & I'll probably send the ECM to TSP for tuning. Car will be under 3000 lbs, rear gear is 3.38:1
Edit: I Also have PRC .650 springs & Comp Cams Trunion kit.
112 blower? But then you mention a FAST intake? Sorry if I'm missing something.
10-12-2011, 05:24 PM
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I purchased my kit through TSP few months back...
MS3 on a 113LSA
Spring kit
H/C swap gasket kit
LS6 ported oil pump
Double Roller timing set
7.4" pushrods
LS7 lifters
The only thing I had to buy was oil, filter, and antifreeze. This will run an additional $100 easy, so don't forget to factor this in. Also, the oil pump O-ring is about $10 from MY dealer, I forgot about it when I ordered the pump. Anyways, my total from TSP was like $1,328.xx if I recall correctly. It went in my 02 C5, so I had the LS6 intake on at the time of the swap. I'm now running the F.A.S.T. with a GTO TB and pigtail harness connector. This cam SCREAMS!!! Doesn't really start making power until after 4k, but man does it pick-up!!! I have no regrets. Can't wait to throw the juice to it!
MS3 on a 113LSA
Spring kit
H/C swap gasket kit
LS6 ported oil pump
Double Roller timing set
7.4" pushrods
LS7 lifters
The only thing I had to buy was oil, filter, and antifreeze. This will run an additional $100 easy, so don't forget to factor this in. Also, the oil pump O-ring is about $10 from MY dealer, I forgot about it when I ordered the pump. Anyways, my total from TSP was like $1,328.xx if I recall correctly. It went in my 02 C5, so I had the LS6 intake on at the time of the swap. I'm now running the F.A.S.T. with a GTO TB and pigtail harness connector. This cam SCREAMS!!! Doesn't really start making power until after 4k, but man does it pick-up!!! I have no regrets. Can't wait to throw the juice to it!
10-12-2011, 07:22 PM
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As long as we're on the topic and the OP seems to have gotten his answer, how about some insight on my MS3/112 setup? My engine will have the following, LS6 with 243 heads, fresh 5 angle valve job, LS2 timing chain, Katech rod bolts, 1 7/8 long tube headers, complete custom 3 inch stainless exhaust with cut outs, FAST 92 intake. Throttle body is to be determined & I'll probably send the ECM to TSP for tuning. Car will be under 3000 lbs, rear gear is 3.38:1
Edit: I Also have PRC .650 springs & Comp Cams Trunion kit.
Edit: I Also have PRC .650 springs & Comp Cams Trunion kit.
10-12-2011, 10:44 PM
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+1 on auto or stick ?The MS3 is greatly lacking on trq for launching at the track with a stick but seems to shine more with an auto & a good converter . Check out nhraformula I think is his name on here he is chrs1313's Dad & runs mid 10's with a MS3/auto .Everybody says the MS3 LOVES to be sprayed .
My set up was almost identical to Chris's dad but with a M6 = 11.43 on ET streets .Have since switched to a Pat G custom spec cam & full slicks but have not been back to the track yet .If your are an auto the converter is a VERY big piece of the puzzle ! !get a good PROVEN one .
My set up was almost identical to Chris's dad but with a M6 = 11.43 on ET streets .Have since switched to a Pat G custom spec cam & full slicks but have not been back to the track yet .If your are an auto the converter is a VERY big piece of the puzzle ! !get a good PROVEN one .
10-13-2011, 09:56 AM
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11-07-2012, 01:49 AM
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I have a bone stock 2001 as camaro. I just recently blew a head gaskit, I'm about to get it fixed tomorrow I'm looking to but a ms3 milid cam for my car and put in during the head gaskit repair. I was curious as to if I will need anything else besides a tune to have this put in. Like additional mods or anything that I would need for the car to.make it run great.
11-07-2012, 08:36 AM
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Lol yea a ms3 is a good size cam, sure you can find bigger but it's far from mild. Also we would need to know if your manual or auto. I'd also say do a double timing chain and oil pump while your in there. Also some exhaust at least. And just curious why you starting with a cam?
11-07-2012, 09:41 AM
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I have had the MS3 for a while now and overall its a great cam. The idle sound is amazing. My power comes in around 3K and comes alive at 5K-7K. I have terminator heads, fast,injectors,etc.. supporting mods to get the power. Also 4.10's in the rear. Cam choice is all preference. What are you goals for the car? Mine was all motor then a little spray eventually. Build you car for what you want. But know more power gets addicting= more money. Pay to play.
Car put 463/420 to tires.
Car put 463/420 to tires.
11-07-2012, 09:46 AM
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i run the ms3 cam on my 6sp goat. had full tilt 241 heads,
supporting valve train, etc... long tubes and all of that.
runs like a scalded ape, and i do daily drive it. its an awesome
cam, but its not for someone who wants full driveability like
a stock set up.
supporting valve train, etc... long tubes and all of that.
runs like a scalded ape, and i do daily drive it. its an awesome
cam, but its not for someone who wants full driveability like
a stock set up.
11-07-2012, 11:42 AM
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I have a bone stock 2001 as camaro. I just recently blew a head gaskit, I'm about to get it fixed tomorrow I'm looking to but a ms3 milid cam for my car and put in during the head gaskit repair. I was curious as to if I will need anything else besides a tune to have this put in. Like additional mods or anything that I would need for the car to.make it run great.