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Old 12-12-2011, 10:13 AM
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Default Wanting to start a short block build for FI. Thinking AES 390??

running a stock bottom ls1 right now. Mods in sig. I'm wanting to start building a shortblock on a stand throughout spring/summer/fall 2012. That way I can still enjoy my car and now have it down all year. I have a D1SC procharger, and I'm not sure what size of motor to go with. The options I was thinking about are...

1.buy a 347 forged shortblock from a sponsor

2. Pick up a 6.0L from the junkyard on the cheap (longs as the block is good) and then buy a rotating assembly and have the block machined ecct..

3. Buy a rotating assembly and all the parts I need then pull the motor out of my car toward next winter and rebuild it.

I don't know if I should do a 6.0 or just stay with the 347. My ultimate HP goal is 750rwhp. And this will 95% street car. Can some point me in the best direction to go with this? I rally don't wanna put alot of money into heads. I will buy bobs blower cam and use my intake. I don't wanna go too big where my blower will be to small, but at the same time I'd like it where, if in the future, adding a bigger blower wouldn't hurt it. Make sense?

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wow, thats one hell of a price... You think a D1SC would be too small for a 390ci though? Id buy a stock set of 317's and bobs blower cam and call it a day.
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nvm, started reading a little thorugh the thread, and it seems they built the "290" for a D1sc or 76,mm turbo setup.
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The D1 and the 390 work well together and its a hell of a bang for the buck.
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i messaged AES to try to get some answers from them. For 750rwhp being my ultimate goal. I imagine 13-15psi would get me there with untouched 317's and bobs blower cam. would you guys agree? at that PSI level, would head studs be a good idea? its an extra $550 :-/ for head studs.

What about coated pistons/bearings. ive ssen some ppl say coated bearings are a waste and regular bearings are fine and vice versa....
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I think that 15 will put you pretty over the 750. There are plenty of people running bolts (me included) with 10-15lbs. Are studs better, yes, but if you can run bolts and be fine.
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ok kool. What kind of numbers are you putting out? I know PSI is relevant to engine mods, but what psi are you makin also. What size crank/blower pullies?
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not sure on the #'s yet im in the process of re-doing my fuel system. As soon as its done ill be hittin the dyno. Im making 10psi at 5k rpm with the 3.85 pulley and stock size balancer.

With the coated pistons, Fraser will steer you right but he told me it wasnt necessary since i wasnt plannin on spinnin the motor to 7k.
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The $550 head studs option was for the larger 1/2" size studs.. not regular diameter.. and that is for machining only since they have to drill out the original holes and then re tap them by hand.. I would absolutely get studs though, whether the 1/2" or regular size whatever they are, over bolts any day. IMO regular size studs will be fine for you, no need for 1/2" on ur build.
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ahhh ok got ya. i guess i didnt realize it was a larger stud.

i wonder if they can do a stock style crank to lower the price some. for 750rwhp, i wouldnt think id need a forged crank.

more opinions/info on coated bearings/pistons
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Originally Posted by allout06
ahhh ok got ya. i guess i didnt realize it was a larger stud.

i wonder if they can do a stock style crank to lower the price some. for 750rwhp, i wouldnt think id need a forged crank.

more opinions/info on coated bearings/pistons
15lbs on a stock crank = bad idea IMO.. spend the money get the nice stronger crank.. do it right the first time.. you even said urself you may want a bigger blower later on



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