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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Well time to ACTUALLY cam my car. I'm building a 408 in progress but I know with funds it won't be done for at least another year or two. So until then I have to do something to liven this car up. This is going in my 01' Trans Am, m6, ls6 intake and 241 heads. THis is a BUDGET build. Not looking for a custom cam for this set up. Just need some help picking out one that will make me happy. I talked to texas speed and was recommended the 228r, torquer v3, and 231/239. I know all three are going to produce good results but I just don't know which to pick. I'd like to stay under .600 lift so the torquer v3 is out. I'm open minded to other brands as well but I like to deal with texas speed.

I'm looking for power under the curve. I'd like the powerband to be strong between 3k and 6400 rpm. I am m6 so idle isn't and issue and downshifting isn't an issue. This set up MAY get nitrous. no more than a 100 shot and it would be few and far in between. Mostly just looking for n/a power.

All replies are appreciated. I'm also very interested in the torquer v2.

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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Torquer v2, futral f14 or pat g custom cam
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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I've read good things about all three of those options. When I called texas speed he didn't even recommend the v2. I thought that would be the perfect off the shelf cam for me. moderate lift and duration. not to mild and not to wild...
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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A 111 or 110 LSA will kick ths powerband in earlier
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They recommend the v3 cause it makes more power but v2 have healthier lift, If you're worried about the lift go with the v2 then, also futral website have a lot of cams under .600 lift though don't go more than 234 duration cause you will have to get higher in the rpms to feel the power, something between 228 to 234 with the right lobes will meet your needs. Also what valvesprings are you planning to run with the cam?
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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lookin to just use some pac 1218 single .600 lift springs. I like how tsp has the package to help you save a few dollars and just makes sure you don't miss anything. but I'm bout to look at futural right now
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do I need to purchase anything else other than springs? i.e. do I need to change my retainers, seats, locks etc? I think I'm going to put new valve stem seals in while I'm in there.
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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After a little more research I think I just got sold on the street sweeper ht...opinions?
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Nice *****.


EDIT: same cam I was thinking of getting.
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haha yeah those cannons were great haha. but the results I'm finding on this streetsweeper ht are damn good. the only thing is it's gonna cost me a considerably greater amount to go that route as opposed to the torquer v2.
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haha yeah those cannons were great haha. but the results I'm finding on this streetsweeper ht are damn good. the only thing is it's gonna cost me a considerably greater amount to go that route as opposed to the torquer v2.

Why's that?
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well the ssht cost $450 plus shipping and it's going to require springs good to .650 lift which are more expesive.....or I could get the torquer v2 with pushrods, springs, and cam for $600. THis is a build so that's why it's easier to keep it under .600 lift
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well the ssht cost $450 plus shipping and it's going to require springs good to .650 lift which are more expesive.....or I could get the torquer v2 with pushrods, springs, and cam for $600. THis is a build so that's why it's easier to keep it under .600 lift

I see.

I'm on a budget and I would need a torque converter too. That Torquer 2 package looks good and for a decent price.
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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It really does. I'm exploring the custom cam option. Damian has been spec'in some nasty cams so I may try to copy one of his styles
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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look at a ed curtis streetsweeper ,or a EPS cam.you can get good valve train pkgs from TSP or thunder racing.
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that streetsweeper ht has got my eye but It's going to cost me a good bit more than I want to spend b/c it's more expensive and so is the spring kit for it. I'm going to run with the torquer v.2 cam. I think I'll be very happy with that set up.

My question is what do I need to do about an oil pump? I've read everything from factory unported is fine and high volume will suck the pan dry and visa versa. Can I just port my factory pump?
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that streetsweeper ht has got my eye but It's going to cost me a good bit more than I want to spend b/c it's more expensive and so is the spring kit for it. I'm going to run with the torquer v.2 cam. I think I'll be very happy with that set up.

My question is what do I need to do about an oil pump? I've read everything from factory unported is fine and high volume will suck the pan dry and visa versa. Can I just port my factory pump?
You don't really need an oil pump, 01 an 02 models came with better oil pump and lifters, also ls6 intake, one more thing you definitely need pushrods (chromemoly) 7.4 is usually a good size. Some valvesprings come with seats and titanium retainers, Patriot and PRC have good prices for dual springs.
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Use there 228R. That will produce the results that you are wanting.
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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I was just going to use the PAC single beehive springs with stock keepers, retainers, seats, etc. Saw some builds buy Damian done like that so that'll keep the budget down. I'm getting some brand new chromoly pr's from a buddy 7.4" length.

Does the stock oil pump need to be ported or is it just better left alone? I could probably do it start to finish in an hour from the pics i've seen.

Also are there any specialty tools i need to do this (crank pulley remover and valve spring tool) that I an rent from advanced or something?
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Use there 228R. That will produce the results that you are wanting.
This is the cam I was thinkin' would be just right or if the OP stumbles
across a good used ThunderRacing224. Both are great street sticks.
Also the OP should try blending the oil pump casting ports and pop a .060"
shim in the bypass spring to kick the pressure up a bit. Just make sure
to put the geroter gears back in the housing the same way they came
out so the non-beveled side doesn't chew up the casting. I'd
consider the PSI maxlife springs if set on the bee-hive style.

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