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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Awesome. But what we need is info on the lifter supplier. I do hear a bit of valvetrain noise in your 2nd video, but not too bad. Your 1st video is exactly what mine sounds like right now.
Yeah, the 2nd video is a little misleading in the sense that you can year the valves actuating through the intake. Also, the heads now have PRC dual springs instead of the comp beehives. I'm pretty sure that makes a bit of a difference. I'll try to take a vid of the car driving tonight on my way home...maybe that'll give you a better idea.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by salemetro
....Also, the heads now have PRC dual springs instead of the comp beehives. I'm pretty sure that makes a bit of a difference....
I've heard that duals are generally a bit louder. I suppose a little more mass & force impacting the seat. However in my case it didn't help going from duals to PAC beehives.

Thanks for adding the supplier info. Strange they haven't gone public yet.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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I've heard that duals are generally a bit louder. I suppose a little more mass & force impacting the seat. However in my case it didn't help going from duals to PAC beehives.

Thanks for adding the supplier info. Strange they haven't gone public yet.
On a side note, currently building a 383 for the Miata that will spin 7 to 7.5k ....and will be trying out Morel race linkbars on it....just for the hell of it. I don't think you'd go wrong with Morel either, if you decided to try them.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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It's not necessarily quiet but I don't hear anything abnormal now. Most of that sound sounds like the injectors and the valvetrain noise amplified by the FAST intake.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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You can call me Ray. Or you can call me Jay. But you don't gots to call me Johnsons!

I think I guessed that a long time ago.

Anyway, probably the biggest lifter manufacturer in the world, or at least they were.

Sounds like an LS to me......

Howdy James, we never hooked up did we! Summer be almost gone.....but getting into the best drag racing weather right now...

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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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I remember seeing some really funny Johnsons T-shirts years ago.
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Originally Posted by hiltsy855
Awesome. But what we need is info on the lifter supplier. I do hear a bit of valvetrain noise in your 2nd video, but not too bad. Your 1st video is exactly what mine sounds like right now.
Ditto, I have that loud noise down by the wheel wells as you do in the first video, not really prominent in the second video.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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salemetro - Any chance you could tell us what you paid for the Johnson lifters? Hopefully these will bridge the gap between LS7s and Morels......
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
You can call me Ray. Or you can call me Jay. But you don't gots to call me Johnsons!

I think I guessed that a long time ago.

Anyway, probably the biggest lifter manufacturer in the world, or at least they were.

Sounds like an LS to me......

Howdy James, we never hooked up did we! Summer be almost gone.....but getting into the best drag racing weather right now...

Ron
Heya Ron...yeah, summer flew by! I've been meaning to catch up with you and check out your 'Vette, but have been too dang busy. I'm sure that you can relate. I'm hoping to run the Miata before the end of the year, but we'll see how it goes. For now, it's doing daily-driver detail, and waiting for a new engine


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salemetro - Any chance you could tell us what you paid for the Johnson lifters? Hopefully these will bridge the gap between LS7s and Morels......
I'll just say that the price is right in line with the Morel race lifters....they were not cheap. I don't regret the purchase, but plan on trying out the Morel race pieces (with linkbars) on the new 383 build. I'm kinda funny like that...figured I'd give them a shot too. Make no mistake, you can still hear the valvetrain in the Miata currently....but it's 10x quieter than it was with the LS7 lifters.

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
I remember seeing some really funny Johnsons T-shirts years ago.
No 'Big Johnson Lifters' shirts......
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Originally Posted by salemetro
Heya Ron...yeah, summer flew by! I've been meaning to catch up with you and check out your 'Vette, but have been too dang busy. I'm sure that you can relate. I'm hoping to run the Miata before the end of the year, but we'll see how it goes. For now, it's doing daily-driver detail, and waiting for a new engine
Hey James, was great to meet you at the mini cruise/show. I really like your car! Very nicely done.

And guys, the valvetrain is pretty quiet! Unlike mine........

Ron
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Are the Johnson lifters public yet?...'cause I've got a set coming from my builder.
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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This is a very interesting subject, could someone please explain to me what everyone is talking about with preload, those numbers, and all the fancy terms. I appreciate it im trying to learn.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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I don't disagree with you, and in my install I included the assumption that I would lose approx .010" to thermal expansion. If you do the install and everything is at 70* F and you assume 220* F temps fully warmed up, there's a 150* F differential. I'm no mettalurgist, but near as I can tell, aluminum expands about 13 micro inches per *F and steel expands about 8 micro inches per *F. 150 X 13 = 1950 micro inches of expansion for the aluminum, and 150 x 8 = 1200 micro inches. one micro inch = .000001". The aluminum would expand approx .000001 x 1950 = .00195" and the steel would be approx .000001 X 1200 = .0012". .00195" - .0012" = .0075", so, there may be a loss of about 7.5 thousandths of an inch. I set my cold pre load at .012" so that should have me in the .004 range fully warmed. I've been running the comp "r" that way for 3 or 4 years now w/o issue. That's the way I did it. Works for me. That's all I can say about it.
If only others will listen. Morels are in the same boat here
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sommer86
Are the Johnson lifters public yet?...'cause I've got a set coming from my builder.
I answered my own question...

Here are my link-bar style, short travel Johnson's, (Pppffffffttttt, lol) These things are REALLY pretty. Should be pretty awesome in the 402 i'm building.







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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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Ah, another guy in the "top-secret lifter" club..... Are these available to the public yet? They look a lot like the Morels I just bought....
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hiltsy855
Ah, another guy in the "top-secret lifter" club..... Are these available to the public yet? They look a lot like the Morels I just bought....
Not sure if they sell direct. You can get them through Mamo.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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Ok, thanks!!!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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ok..............how much?
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by therabidweasel
not sure if they sell direct. You can get them through mamo.
bingo!
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