Shelf vs custom cam specs?
04-02-2012, 10:51 PM
#45
Shelf cams are also designed by cam designers not pre-schoolers. There was a thread here a while back where people were asked for their custom cam specs. LOTS of people with cams from the same vendors had identical specs. Coincidence? Doubtful. I attribute it to a "shelf" cam designed by that vendor that has proven itself, and he suggests it to his customer. Cams have been around for 100 years or more, nobody is re-inventing the wheel. With all these vendors here at my disposal I chose a shelf cam, a proven one, and have been happy so far with the results. I do not need that warm and fuzzy false feeling when I lay down at night thinking nobody else in the world has my one of a kind, ground breaking, never been done, custom grind 
This!!
I think im gonna get a 218/365 1000/1000 on a 180 lsa cam spec for me and see how it goes.. lol
OP, why not just go with the vindicator cam? Since your car isnt a DD and you have already driven a TREX.
Last edited by TXZ28LS1; 04-02-2012 at 11:04 PM.
04-03-2012, 04:51 AM
#47
Well I was mainly looking for info on the two cams in the original post as stated several times already...since I have not had experience with either of them. But for some reason all you ******* morons want to do is bad mouth what you think is my choice in cams. I didn't ask for a recommendation...only information on the cams in question.
04-03-2012, 06:46 AM
#48
Vindicator is still too big in my opinion for stock cubes. If you guys paid attention to what's been posted, I stated already that I had a trex and it was too big for stock cubes. IMO anything larger than a RAPTR or G5X3 is too big for stock cubes unless you want a track only cam.
04-03-2012, 10:18 AM
#50
I was on the same boat wanted thunder racing stroker cam I think specs are 247/251 but I had Pat spec me a cam and gave me a 243/247 decided to go with what the expert recommended shelf cams are max effort cams for a wide range of different setups so you can go smaller but it will perform better
Last edited by 09camaro383; 04-03-2012 at 06:24 PM.
04-03-2012, 09:40 PM
#53
TECH Apprentice
I would go with the custom grind. The shelf grind and custom are similar in numbers, but with the information you provided to Futral, you got back a "custom" grind that the expert : I don't think any one would argue that: says will function better for you and your car.
They appear to be similar but there must be a reason Allen recomended the slightly smaller camshaft for you. I would think the custom ground cam would out perform the shelf grind or he wouldn't have recomended it.
I still have not ordered my custom grind from Futral, and I will some day, but it's close to an advertised cam they have sold for awhile. I also emailed them about one of the shelf cams but they recomended a custom ground cam to fit my application so that's what I'll get.
I don't know if any one could tell you the difference in performance between the two except Allen Futral
They appear to be similar but there must be a reason Allen recomended the slightly smaller camshaft for you. I would think the custom ground cam would out perform the shelf grind or he wouldn't have recomended it.
I still have not ordered my custom grind from Futral, and I will some day, but it's close to an advertised cam they have sold for awhile. I also emailed them about one of the shelf cams but they recomended a custom ground cam to fit my application so that's what I'll get.
I don't know if any one could tell you the difference in performance between the two except Allen Futral
