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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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carb intakes cant be considered. the SBC have coolant running through them.
Coolant running through them would increase posible heat soak as well. Coolant isnt exactly cool, LOL. So a metal intake on a car without coolant running through it should stay cooler as the only heat soak is from engine bay temps & the heads. And engine bay temps will decrease with the car moving and air flowing.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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I hope someone proves or disproves this whole heat soak theory one day just to end all of this
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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I've said it before and I'm sticking to guns...bbk has poor thermal qualities compared to composite...let the hating begin haha
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Lol I knew I would at least get one comment haha
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 06:22 AM
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either way, until someone actually datalogs the temps in a BBK compared to a composite it is futile arguments on either side so stop speculating and start measuring.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Edelbrock didnt get rich selling plastic intakes, Fast didnt get rich selling metal intakes blah blahh blahh
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wildcamaro
Lol I knew I would at least get one comment haha
Lol I had to
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 07:41 AM
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Just run one on dyno and watch the numbers drop as it heats up. Numbers will look good starting off. An hour or more on the dyno and there is a decrease in hp and tq. It's happened with more than one bbk.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cranny
Just run one on dyno and watch the numbers drop as it heats up. Numbers will look good starting off. An hour or more on the dyno and there is a decrease in hp and tq. It's happened with more than one bbk.
Can you post evidence of this? People say stuff like this every so often but I have never seen a single dyno sheet or timeslip showing a car with a BBK slow/lose power on consecutive passes.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cranny
Just run one on dyno and watch the numbers drop as it heats up. Numbers will look good starting off. An hour or more on the dyno and there is a decrease in hp and tq. It's happened with more than one bbk.
I call bs on this i drove my car 5+hrs straight with the ssi and all the power was still there and i can gurantee that was more grueling than an hour on the dyno
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Old May 8, 2012 | 05:03 PM
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I watched one being dynoed and over the course of the tune 2-3 hours, it kept losing hp. At the end of the tune it dropped 13hp from when they first started.

This was tuned by a reputable forum sponsor and they said they've experienced this before with the bbk.

You might not feel a loss or gain of 13hp, but regardless it will heat up over time. The heat soak is not a myth regardless of what anyones opinion is.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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I also wanted to add that the tuner said if a bbk equipped car was running in 30 degree temps during the winter months, heat soak wouldn't be as much an issue.

On a hot summer day in july or august, you could expect an even bigger drop off in performance that may not be felt or measured except on a dyno.

He went on to ask how your car runs during a cool 40 degree day, as opposed to a hot and humid 90 degree day. I think we can all agree any performance oriented car runs better in cooler ambient temps.

BTW, they dynoed the bbk car on a 60 degree day, so it was not very hot out and still saw a drop off in numbers over the course of a couple hours.
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Old May 9, 2012 | 12:17 AM
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[QUOTE=cranny;16288928]I watched one being dynoed and over the course of the tune 2-3 hours, it kept losing hp. At the end of the tune it dropped 13hp from when they first started.

This was tuned by a reputable forum sponsor and they said they've experienced this before with the bbk.

You might not feel a loss or gain of 13hp, but regardless it will heat up over time. The heat soak is not a myth regardless of what anyones opini

To each their own but i would much rather have cast than plastic any day plus it can be ported
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Old May 9, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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Do you have the dyno sheet from that testing? He said/she said does little to "prove" anything.
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Old May 9, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Well no ****! That's like saying going outside naked on a hot summer day would suck less than going out when its ***** below zero....

Of course heat soak would be less of an issue if the air is alreay 30 degrees as opposed to 95...
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Old May 9, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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I don't have s dyno sheet. It wasn't my car. I was just there observing and talking with the tuner about dyno tuning my car. He simply shared the info on what he was currently working on at the time, and his prior experience with tuning cars with bbk intakes.

I'm not here to argue what intake is better orthan aluminum vs composite. I'm just simply stating what I observed and passing on what the tuner told me.

Take if for what it is. I don't really care either way.
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