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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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hotcam in my car and sounds great at idle and very nice for the street, and has great power throughout rpm range...but it came with car when i got it and i havent experienced the other cam so i have no opinion on that one.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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Scoggin Dickey has them. But if you're looking for used keep your eye on the trader or ebay. Just did a search and nothing to be found used. You'll have to wait maybe months or longer for one to show up used, or just buy a new one. You can also post in the "Want To Buy" section of the forum and maybe one will turn up.
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
Your old buddy Phil liked his hot cam didn't he?
LOL...Yes he did! I liked it to. I just think the ls6 cam is a better way to go for a driver car....the smooth idle is sneeky too. I don't think there will be much for power difference until you get above 6k.

How do you know Phill?
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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Not from my experience. Although mine is a crate ls6 I have my limiter @ 7000 and shift @ about 6800. Power never seems to fall off.
You have the wrong concept on what is "peak" power. It is not how far you shift it is the first highest hp point in the power curve. On a LS6 intaked 346ci a cam with 42 IVC will "peak" usually at 6200 rpm. After that even if power does not fall off, the peak remains 6200 rpm and it "carries" further.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
You have the wrong concept on what is "peak" power. It is not how far you shift it is the first highest hp point in the power curve. On a LS6 intaked 346ci a cam with 42 IVC will "peak" usually at 6200 rpm. After that even if power does not fall off, the peak remains 6200 rpm and it "carries" further.
Would 6400 rpm be a good shift point with the hot cam ?
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
You have the wrong concept on what is "peak" power. It is not how far you shift it is the first highest hp point in the power curve. On a LS6 intaked 346ci a cam with 42 IVC will "peak" usually at 6200 rpm. After that even if power does not fall off, the peak remains 6200 rpm and it "carries" further.
I know exactly what peak power is.

You should be shifting at or before 6400 with the hotcam. Phills carried a bit further after we worked on the heads a little.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
Would 6400 rpm be a good shift point with the hot cam ?
That will be determined once your setup is done and tuned. Best shift points are the ones that keeps the highest average power between shifts and it varies depending on your setup.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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My Hotcam has been in since June 2003. Have had no problems, have enjoyed it, and it fit my needs well. Made 381 rwhp @ 5950 ad 373 rwtq @ 5000.

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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
That will be determined once your setup is done and tuned. Best shift points are the ones that keeps the highest average power between shifts and it varies depending on your setup.
For sure. But generally speaking a hot cam will peak before a ls6.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
For sure. But generally speaking a hot cam will peak before a ls6.
Yes because it has an earlier IVC
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
That will be determined once your setup is done and tuned. Best shift points are the ones that keeps the highest average power between shifts and it varies depending on your setup.
It will b on mailorder tune though
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Is the LS1 Hot Cam the same specs as the LT-1?

What was the thinking behind this cam? Just to have the old muscle car sound?
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Is the LS1 Hot Cam the same specs as the LT-1?

What was the thinking behind this cam? Just to have the old muscle car sound?
To keep the lift down for stock heads and be able to run reliable springs. Wich is exactly why I want it.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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Made 439 RWHP/371 RWTQ with a Hot Cam and mild 243 heads and all of the bolt-ons on an LQ4. The key is the tune, and if you're going mail order, you're leaving HP on the table.

I chose this cam for the same reason as the OP, and it can make power if you support it with bolt-ons, decent heads and a solid tune.

Oh, and my shift point is 6300 RPMs.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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They are both good cams for stock, off the self and I have had them both in seperate vehicles and liked them both but like the way the Hot Cam sounded idling but like the performance of the LS6 cam a touch better and was a sleeper. Hot Cam made on the dyno 7rwhp over the LS6 cam but ran faster with LS6 cam at a 1/4 mile track, same track also. Just from my personal experiences over the years.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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I had a hotcam almost 10 years ago in my 01 SS. Stock 01 LS1 with longtubes. Made like 365rwhp with a crappy tune. Not the best, but works. It's lopey, unlike the Ls6 cam. "If" you are dead nuts set on one of the two, then the hotcam gets my vote.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Evans752
They are both good cams for stock, off the self and I have had them both in seperate vehicles and liked them both but like the way the Hot Cam sounded idling but like the performance of the LS6 cam a touch better and was a sleeper. Hot Cam made on the dyno 7rwhp over the LS6 cam but ran faster with LS6 cam at a 1/4 mile track, same track also. Just from my personal experiences over the years.
If you had them in different vehicles it would be hard to tell wich one actually made more power though
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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But I read that the reason these older cams were .525 to .550 lift was because valve single spring tech could not handle the additional lift and be reliable. Something which does not hold true today. So you could build a Hot Cam with the same specs but use .59X+ lift and still use single springs without an issue. So there is a lot of power left.

I thought the LT4 Hot Cam mirrored the LS1 version but the LS1 head can use more lift.
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Well i think im just gonna keep my ls6 cam. Getting prices new they are wanting $420 just for the hot cam LOL.
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You can get just about any of the older Comp Cam shelf grinds with under .550" lift for $355 shipped.
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/camshafts/
The Comp Cams #54-416-11 would be a nice choice.
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...e-rpm-220-224/
You could even go with a custom grind for $360 shipped.
http://speed-eng.com/store/custom-gr...ft-p-8416.html

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