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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Any advice on heads? Pros and cons?
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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GM High-Tech magazine had a great write up comparing them about 2 issues ago. The general conclusion I came away with is that they are really about equal. Im sure with more extreme applications there can be pros and cons to both.
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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Damn, I must have missed that issue. Go figure
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 06:06 PM
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Bigger is better but means a bigger budget and that's not better in some cases.
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Originally Posted by dans94z28
Bigger is better but means a bigger budget and that's not better in some cases.
That cannot be further from the truth. While rectangular might show big numbers on a dyno, their performance is generally less than stellar (unless you are a true bench racer). Myself I would stick with cathedral properly ported 243/799s.
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Ls2/l92 heads mild cam no porting on manifold or heads I made 443/418 with a linear torque curve in this shitty Arizona air and fuel. Super cheap build compared to ported 243s
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I'm concerned about clearance and don't wanna have to flycut. I've been reading that this might be an issue with 243's
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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It would be more of an issue with LS3 heads because they have a much larger valve. LS3 heads have great flow numbers but they come from a large valve and a large runner. This kills low end port velocity so I would try and keep that in mind. Also, they have a large chamber so compression is harder to come by with them.
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Cathedral. You need a bigger bore to really let the rectangle heads do justice.
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If you use 243 heads on the 6.0, do I use heads bolts from a LS1?
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Old Jul 1, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Definitely to maintain low end response and torque,stick with cathedrals.
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Old Jul 1, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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LS3 heads and hears why,ls2 l92 heads makes 460rwhp 446rwtq. Over 450Hp, and a fairly broad and flat torque curve with a mid sized cam, and a set of heads that you can assemble with good springs for about $1000.
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If you use 243 heads on the 6.0, do I use heads bolts from a LS1?
2004 and earlier LQ4/LQ9 blocks had long and short bolts while the 2005 and up had one length. You gotta make sure you get the right bolts for the year of your block. In this respect, it really doesn't matter what head you use, it's the block that determines which bolt set to buy.
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Old Jul 1, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1 Racing
2004 and earlier LQ4/LQ9 blocks had long and short bolts while the 2005 and up had one length. You gotta make sure you get the right bolts for the year of your block. In this respect, it really doesn't matter what head you use, it's the block that determines which bolt set to buy.

Actually they switched mid year 04, some have the same length bolts, some have the short/long combo.......I've had two 04 block and one had the early pattern, one had the late pattern
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^^That...
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Actually they switched mid year 04, some have the same length bolts, some have the short/long combo.......I've had two 04 block and one had the early pattern, one had the late pattern
Thanks for clarifying that...Wouldn't want to steer the OP wrong!
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Originally Posted by Fry_
LS3 heads and hears why,ls2 l92 heads makes 460rwhp 446rwtq. Over 450Hp, and a fairly broad and flat torque curve with a mid sized cam, and a set of heads that you can assemble with good springs for about $1000.
You can do the same with 241's for less money than that.
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But you also have to consider that that 460hp was with a stock MAF with screen, a stock unported LS3 intake, a catted y-pipe, and a GMMG cat back. With a 85mm MAF or SD tune, a FAST 102, and an ORY with a cut-out I think 500hp could easily have been reached. Heck you could skip the FAST and just have the LS3 intake ported and you might still hit 500hp. I'd also like to see were you can get a set of 241's ported and dual springs installed for under $1000. Plus I think you need to find a pretty number happy dyno to hit 460hp with a 22x cam and 241 heads.
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Originally Posted by Fry_
But you also have to consider that that 460hp was with a stock MAF with screen, a stock unported LS3 intake, a catted y-pipe, and a GMMG cat back. With a 85mm MAF or SD tune, a FAST 102, and an ORY with a cut-out I think 500hp could easily have been reached. Heck you could skip the FAST and just have the LS3 intake ported and you might still hit 500hp. I'd also like to see were you can get a set of 241's ported and dual springs installed for under $1000. Plus I think you need to find a pretty number happy dyno to hit 460hp with a 22x cam and 241 heads.
You don't need fully ported 241's, just bigger valves and bowl work will cover it. You're looking at $600-700 max including valves and since we're in the Gen III section, you don't have to buy new rockers, stands, intake, fuel rails, etc. so that's even more money saved.
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Okay, I'm having a hard time believing that 450rwhp can be made with 241's with bigger valves, bowl work, and a 22x cam. As far as the cost of a LS3 head swap, stock LS3 heads,rocker stands, offset intake rockers, and PRC .650" dual valve springs cost $1128.57, and I've seen several LS3 intakes with fuel rails and injectors for $300-350 on Ebay. Thats cheaper than most aftermarket heads that are capable of supporting over 500hp with a midsize cam.
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