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Old 07-27-2012, 01:16 PM
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Obviously, it can be done. Most will say wait.
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For people who say that you can't do a cam before a converter or it'll drive like ****, what size cam did you install? Did you have it tuned? If you install an MS3 with no stall and run it untuned... of course it'll drive like ****. A little 220ish cam with the proper tune should drive fine. The truck guys do cam swaps with stock converters quite a bit, dunno why it is so problematic for F-bodies...
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As stated in my post, it was a 230/224 which TR advertised as a 224 with some extra top end kick.

220/220 or under might be ok, but I wouldn't go any bigger at all, and IMO a cam that small isn't worth doing to me since it's the same price as a good mid size cam
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I think you'll learn to find reasons not to drive your car!
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Originally Posted by Latch
For people who say that you can't do a cam before a converter or it'll drive like ****, what size cam did you install? Did you have it tuned? If you install an MS3 with no stall and run it untuned... of course it'll drive like ****. A little 220ish cam with the proper tune should drive fine. The truck guys do cam swaps with stock converters quite a bit, dunno why it is so problematic for F-bodies...
A 220s cam should drive GREAT, not just fine. With the trucks I see it's a small cam like a 212/218 114-116lsa .
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
So you're interested in hearing the opinions of the other thick headed fools that have cars that run like ****?
You make it sound stupid for me wanting the opinions of those who have had a cam before stall... comparably to those who have not. The ones who have not will of course say to wait

And those thick headed fools that have had their "car run like ****" sound like they weren't happy and are not reccomending it. (so again..those "fools" are the ones I want to hear from) I will wait without a doubt now, but had to hear reasoning. Just had the money on hand thats all....
either way...now I get my nittos and 3600 now instead of later.
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If you run people redlight to redlight, get a stall. A stall alone gave me 5 tenths in bone stock car.

If you want the power on the highway, or running people from a roll, get a cam, that's where a cam will pay off more.

A stall will wake your car up like you won't believe. In a stock car, my vig 3600 will break the tires loose in a 2-1 downshift floored.
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Years ago I ran an MTI T1 (221/221 on 112 LSA) for several months before I got a stall. It ran ok, and I didn't have any braking issues. It was tuned after the cam install as well.

The only way to tell it had a cam was the lope, cuz it didn't run any faster. It would bog often off idle during WOT punches.

It can be done, don't expect it to be faster w/out the stall.



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