Cooldude5231

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So im building a lq4 with a ms3 cam.
Thinking about going with the 113 lsa
What I'm wondering is, what all do i need other than cam, lifters, pushrods (what length???) Springs, and retainers?
I'm going with 5.3 truck heads that will be ported, with 2.02 intake valves.
Will the pistons have to be flycut?
Will i have PVC problems??

Plan is H/c/i and nitrous.
No bigger than a 150 shot of course.
Just wanting to know of all possibilities before I tear into it.
I'd rather have all the parts there waiting so i can go ahead and drop the motor in.
All help is greatly appreciated.
You guys are awesome!

Sales4@Texas-Speed

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At the minimum you need upgraded valve springs and pushrods. There is a decent chance you might have to flycut depending on who is doing the heads. When we do this combination we sink the valves in the head to create extra clearance, if that is not done the set up will not properly clear. I would definitely measure clearance before firing the motor, or just go ahead and fly cut to eliminate the possibility of a problem. We prefer to run a double spring on a cam like this, 2 springs gives some added insurance and it is a big cam. Ideally you will want to measure your pushrod length, there are a lot of things changing here so it would be tough to guess at what you need. Depending on mileage of the motor you might think about doing stuff like oil pump, lifters, and timing chain at the same time. They are right there with the work you are already doing and it takes care of some maintenance that would be tough to get to otherwise. Let me know if we can help out in anyway.

Fbodyjunkie06

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I agree with John.

As he said if you'd like you can also call us at Tick and price out the parts you'd need.

Cooldude5231

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thanks guys!
i know this sounds bad but im trying to be cheap as possible.
i know theres places i cant skimp, and a decent cam/valvetrain is definitely not a place to do so.
i will be doing oil pump and timing chain while im there, but thats about it.
do you have any links, or products that come in kits?
or a list of good parts id need with a final price??
thanks guys!

Sales4@Texas-Speed

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If you want to PM me your email address I can put together a quote for you once I get back in the shop tomorrow. I don't know if you have the heads already but we offer some pretty aggressive pricing on our ported 2.5 5.3l heads with springs that are made for that cam. I think we may even have a couple sets in stock.

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-1172-pr...ted-heads.aspx

Cooldude5231

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kinda thinking of a trex cam now....
whats your input on that??
is it less likly that ill have to flycut if i go with the trex?

1BadBlkB1tch

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ms3 all day trust me well worth the slight headache :-) 113lsa sounds perfect for 150shot im running a ms3 on a 408 stroked lq9 with a dp 150

Fbodyjunkie06

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Ms3 will give you better PTV clearance than a Trex would, our Polluter although very close in specs to the MS3 clears without flycutting.

Here is our polluter package which has the option to add all the things you wanted to do.

http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...grade-package/

Cooldude5231

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im sold on the polluter cam....
lol
i dont wanna flycut.
is the link you posted the right specs for non flycutting applications??

Fbodyjunkie06

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If you're still using stock heads, valves and compression then that cam will work without having to fly-cut.

It is close PTV clearance wise and you could fly-cut for peace of mind and there will be some that will tell you what you are doing is wrong and isn't correct, which is partly true, but you have to do it by your means and what your wallet is comfortable with and we have other customers who are in the same boat as you.

I have a 239/247 110lsa cam in my car and my pistons are not fly cut(my cam is slightly bigger than the Polluter) and it has been ran very hard at the track up to 7500rpm on the stock bottom end with Katech rod bolts with no issues.

Cooldude5231

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i was thinking about going the 5.3 truck heads with the lq4
but that cam makes good numbers without head work
im also thinking about just getting a cheap 5.3
if i went that route would i have to flycut the 5.3??

Fbodyjunkie06

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5.3 heads on a LQ4 should yield around 10.5:1 static compression which is higher than a stock LS1. You would be even closer PTV wise with this set-up and I wouldn't recommend it without fly cutting.

You could order the ported 5.3 heads from TSP that are made to work with their MS3 and use our Polluter cam. Run it cam only for a while to see how you like it and when you want more power get the 5.3's from them!

Best of both worlds in your situation

Cooldude5231

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What if I ditch the lq4 and go 5.3?
Would I have to flycut?
And would there be a major power difference from the 5.3 to 6.0?

Fbodyjunkie06

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Stock to stock there would not be much of a difference you could really notice, maybe down low, but modified there would be a pretty large difference everywhere.

I wouldn't put a cam of that size in a 5.3, but no you wouldn't have to fly cut the 5.3 either.

Just to explain one thing so others don't get confused when I say you won't have to fly cut...doesn't mean it will meet some people's PTV clearance standards, it only means that others have run similar to the same size cams without fly cutting with out hurting anything. Just wanted to re-iterate that.

lsmaxxed

I wanted trex until i came across the ms4. Dont forget the tune!

Cooldude5231

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just out of curiosity why wouldnt you put a cam that size in a 5.3??

Sales4@Texas-Speed

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Too much duration. It would kill a lot of low end power and make it pretty difficult to drive on the street.

Cooldude5231

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so if i go with an lq4 and stock ls1 heads will the polluter be ok without flycutting?

Cooldude5231

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since stock lq4 compression with 317s is like 9:4:1
if i go with stock ls1 heads like 241's or 243's pvc should be ok spinning under 6500rpms with the polluter correct?

Fbodyjunkie06

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This x2.

You should be ok with stock 241's on a LQ4 and our Polluter cam.

If you want though we could make you a custom grind for the same price that will sound just as nasty and have more clearance. It will also perform just as well IMO.