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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Well i finished my first cam swap some weeks ago and want to share the results.
Maybe this helps someone to find the right cam because it's a rather unusual cam.

The goal was a emission legal, stealth cam that makes good mid to high rpm power with everything stock except a 3"Catback and a out of the box Diablosport tune.

After lot of reading and help from ls1tech members, i ordered this custom grind cam from Texasspeed:
CompCams XE 216/226 .569/.571lift @116lsa ICL 114
(IVO -6 BTDC, EVC -5 ATDC, IVC 42 ABDC, EVO 51 BBDC)

Did the install and made this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z35r-8NpLbs
..Made 2nd Place in a Race and wondered why i was not faster (clutch?
..Dynoed 460 SAE-HP Engine (~390rwhp) @6500rpm and 404ftlbs @5000rpm first Run
..and smoked the Clutch in the 2nd run

Limiter was set to 6500 on the dyno but it did not reach the peak power…so even more is possible.
Low rpm torque increased just a little but from 4000rpm it goes like hell… (Graph attached)

I like the cam its stealthy, easy driveable, not too hard on the valvesprings, and it makes more power as i expected.

Is it a save to rev past 6500rpm with a cam only LS1? What's the Limit for stock bottom End?
Attached Thumbnails cam swap finished - the results-dynorun-comp.jpg  

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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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You could bump the rev limiter up 6700, but I wouldn't go any higher then that.
Another option is to advance the cam 2-3* more, that will move the power band down a couple hundred rpm into a more useable range.
Is that injector noise or valvetrain noise...?
The XE lobes should be very quiet so you shouldn't really be getting any noise.

BTW, Excellent video...!
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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Since no one else is chiming in..... 130hp increase from a tiny cam without headers on the car???????? 390 rwhp ????????? That must have been one HAPPY dyno.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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Since no one else is chiming in..... 130hp increase from a tiny cam without headers on the car???????? 390 rwhp ????????? That must have been one HAPPY dyno.
While I'm skeptical also about this 390rwhp with no headers, I really doubt that a stock LS1 was putting down 260rwhp. More like 300-310, which means the cam got him some 80hp.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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it made ~285-290rwhp before so it's a 100hp increase.
But don't forget hp is a function of torque an rpm, a cam that makes torque in high rpm range will more easily result in high hp.

Old setup: 3" Catback, K&N Filter nothing else.
Current setup: 3" Catback, K&N Filter, magnaflow cat, cam & valvesprings, tune, and i tried to port my TB slightly.

Car has the LS6 intake and 241 Heads, stock exhaust manifold, stock y-pipe...

and yes it was one happy dyno

The noise in the video is valvetrain noise i think, but it in real it sounds just like stock...
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Yeah you never know how exactly the audio will turn out, good to hear it sounds better in person. FYI, consider replacing the y-pipe merger and a short section of the driveside pipe the goes into it, that should free up a little bit of power and not conflict with emission checks, also 3.90 or 4.11 gears would work great with that cam.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 01:08 AM
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Nice video now. Didn't know how easy a cam sap is , cant wait to get one in my car in just 12 min lol. Good power too with just a cam all u need now is some before and after 1/4 mile times.
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blown97ss
Nice video now. Didn't know how easy a cam sap is , cant wait to get one in my car in just 12 min lol. Good power too with just a cam all u need now is some before and after 1/4 mile times.
same here lol
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Cool video
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You can't even have a Lid and Shorty headers?
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which valve spring tool is that?
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Awesome video! My car is in the process of a heads cam swap and will hopefully be done this week! Wish I could get a video of everything being done. Would have done it myself but don't have the time.
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awesome vid and results, does anyone know if this cam would pass cali smog?
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Yeah easily, with it have -11* overlap. You could drop the lsa down to a 114 and still be fine with -7* overlap.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Nice video! I didn't know you could put those rods in to hold the lifters up
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Empatho
awesome vid and results, does anyone know if this cam would pass cali smog?
Yes, safe overlap, have to pass smog test too. Rules here in Switzerland are very restrictiv, no aftermarket exhaust parts allowed without special certificates

BTW: If i would do it agian i'd try 115 LSA...

which valve spring tool is that?
It's the compcams tool.
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by OutrunNAScaR14
Nice video! I didn't know you could put those rods in to hold the lifters up
Yes they do hold the lifters up, the rods need to be D-shaped to fit. You will see it if you look at your engine at this point.
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Originally Posted by norog
Yes, safe overlap, have to pass smog test too. Rules here in Switzerland are very restrictiv, no aftermarket exhaust parts allowed without special certificates

BTW: If i would do it agian i'd try 115 LSA...


It's the compcams tool.
IMO, just advance the cam 2-3* more if you want the power band shifted down to a slightly lower rpm range.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Its good to know that it will pass Cali smog. Norog do you plan on taking the car to the track any time soon? it would be nice to see what kind of times you get with this cam.
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i hope i can finish my install in 12 minutes also
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