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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Right now I am trying to decide between heads from PP. I am looking at Stage II heads but am having trouble deciding between 5.3, 5.7, LS6(LQ9)?

Which ones are best? I will most likely purchase the TSP 231.237 cam. Also what are the advantages and disadvantages?

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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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5.3 Higher compression over the 5.7. Both will give good results. But will somewhat limit you on larger motors without a little extra work. Plus the cost is lower for a more budget minded buildup.

6.0 liter heads (LS6) are a well balanced head, good for future expansion and yet giving good results from the get go
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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I will most likely not do any further modding beyond a H/C package. Of course I will have the bolt-ons, but as far as in the future doing displacement or power adders, probably not.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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See if they will sell you my used Magic stick cam it is a little bigger than the 231 cam and it only has maybe 1000 miles on it. then go with the LQ9 heads.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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I would just go with the PP 5.3's. They work very well and make great power.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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The LS6 heads with the 59 cc combustion chamber will bump the compression as well. That's what I'm going for
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Originally Posted by Rice Eater 316
The LS6 heads with the 59 cc combustion chamber will bump the compression as well. That's what I'm going for
thats what i did
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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I've had the 5.7's the 5.3's and LS6 styles. The 5.3's and 5.7's were very good for the smaller cams I ran, but the LS6 style heads are the best you can get (IMO) for a head that allows you to run a large cam with high compression, while allowing you to run your stock pistons without flycutting. NO ONE else can give you compression with a large cam without requiring you to flycut your pistons. There isn't a single head porter besides Patriot, that can deliver a 59cc chamber head with a stock deck height. If you want to spend a little less, the unmilled 5.3's are a good choice, but belive me... sooner or later, you'll want to upgrade to the LS6 style heads.
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I'm gonna do it sooner Dont have the $$$ to do it twice LOL
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gomer... so you can have maybe 11.0:1 compression with a PP ls6 head and not have to flycut your pistons for a big cam like the trex??????????

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Originally Posted by Ponyhtr
Right now I am trying to decide between heads from PP. I am looking at Stage II heads but am having trouble deciding between 5.3, 5.7, LS6(LQ9)?

Which ones are best? I will most likely purchase the TSP 231.237 cam. Also what are the advantages and disadvantages?

Mike
Whats up man..... im not sure if i have met you before..... Im also in Corpus and i have a set of PP Stage II LS6 (LQ9) heads on my car..... If your free tonight (friday) then swing by Auto America on Everhart around 11 pm. There should be quite a few of us F-Body guys and some of those damn mustang guys too.......
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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gomer... so you can have maybe 11.0:1 compression with a PP ls6 head and not have to flycut your pistons for a big cam like the trex??????????

thanx

mike
If you want a cam like the T-rex...you're gonna have to flycut with most any aftermarket head.
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With the Patriot LS6 style heads, you can get a slightly smaller chamber than the 5.3's, without shaving them! The LS6 style head will also give you some better flow to accomodate and take advantage of a larger camshaft. Check out our specials we are running on Patriot heads in the sponsor section! Free head gaskets, head bolts, and free ground shipping

We also have a big cam special running on the 231/237! This cam will fit in your car with the LS6 style heads perfectly, with NO flycutting of your pistons. With a good tune, you can expect good street manners and driveability, and a ton of solid power:burnout: Give us a call anytime, and we can answer your Patriot head questions, as well as help you pick the right camshaft for your application.


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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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They also have my used cam for sale dont overlook that!
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David, that cam was sold. It is being returned because it would not clear an uncut piston. That could be due to the fact this customer had bigger than stock valves. Stock valves and uncut heads, it is close, but is not by what you would call "comfortable".

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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Kyle,

I am in the military and now live in San Angelo, Tx. That is why I was looking at TSP for the parts and probably install sometime this summer, they are probably the closest place, not to mention well respected. They did a guys car here in town, 6.0L LQ9 heads, I think 231.237 cam with a TNT kit! It is pretty fast from what I hear. I would love to come down one weekend when I visit relatives and hang with you guys. I will probably be down a few times this summer. I will look you up! I had another friend named Kyle that lived down there, he had a quasar blue Z28 but it has been wrecked, maybe you know him, he used to live back behind the HEB that is on Everheart and ...... I forget but it is on the southside. Anyway I will look you up next time I am down.

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I might buy some patriot 6.0 heads in next few weeks but confused as to how much each one raising compression on stock bottom end.Our gas here is limited to crap 91.
I think there are three patriot 6.0 chamber sizes..what is compression increase respectively from the 59,64 was it and 72 size.?What is stock compression and what will it be after these.And can I keep my manley cromemoly pushrods or do I need shorter or longer ones with these patriot heads.
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
I might buy some patriot 6.0 heads in next few weeks but confused as to how much each one raising compression on stock bottom end.Our gas here is limited to crap 91.
I think there are three patriot 6.0 chamber sizes..what is compression increase respectively from the 59,64 was it and 72 size.?What is stock compression and what will it be after these.And can I keep my manley cromemoly pushrods or do I need shorter or longer ones with these patriot heads.
You can keep your pushrods as long as they are 7.4 inch (stock) length. I'd go for the 59cc chamber heads, I run the 59cc heads in the hot *** Alabama heat without a problem on 91 and 93 octane. The compression on my car is around 11.8 to 1.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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Wouldn't you want to get hardened pushrods rather than keeping the stock ones?
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Stock compression is about 10.1:1 and the stock heads have a 64-65cc chamber
59cc chambers on a stock motor is about 11.3:1
62cc is about 10.7:1
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