Driving a Big Cam/Stall - Opinions?
11-19-2012, 06:14 PM
#61
I'm running setup in the sig. I've got a y-pipe thru a Hooker Catback and you can't tell the cars got a MS4 in it until you open the cutout. Still dialing in the shocks but shes been turning 11.2@120mph. But my convertors for a NA so I can't run NOS without changing the YANK.
11-20-2012, 08:06 AM
#63
Thanks, Martin.
Btw, I sat down and found more budget so I think I'm going to go the extra mile on a few things:
Brian Tooley Hand Ported TEA Stage 2 LS6 Heads with Turned Down LS3 Valves, BTR Platinum Springs with Ti Retainers, and 58cc Chambers
Comp Cams LSL/LXL 235/242 .621"/.615" 112+4 LSA Camshaft
BTR Custom Length Hardened Pushrods
Morel 5206 Link-Bar Hydraulic Roller Lifters
Comp Cams Trunion Upgrade for Stock Rockers
Cometic .040" Head Gaskets (11.8:1 CR; 8.9:1 DCR)
Flycut Pistons .080" (~1cc relief)
Katech C5-R Timing Chain
Melling 10296 High Volume Oil Pump
GM LS2 Waterpump
FIC 42lbs Flow-Matched Fuel Injectors
Racetronix Fuel Pump with Upgraded Wiring Harness
MSD Plug Wires and NGK TR6 Plugs
BTR Port Matched FAST LSXR 102 Manifold
Nick Williams 102mm TB
FTP 104mm Lid with 4" Silicon Coupler
Kooks 1-7/8" Stainless Longtube Race Headers
Kooks 3" Stainless True Dual Exhaust with Quad 4" Tips
Powerbond Underdrive Pulley
FTI 3800 Stall Torque Converter
Stock 10-Bolt with 3.23 Gears
SD Tune
Btw, I sat down and found more budget so I think I'm going to go the extra mile on a few things:
Brian Tooley Hand Ported TEA Stage 2 LS6 Heads with Turned Down LS3 Valves, BTR Platinum Springs with Ti Retainers, and 58cc Chambers
Comp Cams LSL/LXL 235/242 .621"/.615" 112+4 LSA Camshaft
BTR Custom Length Hardened Pushrods
Morel 5206 Link-Bar Hydraulic Roller Lifters
Comp Cams Trunion Upgrade for Stock Rockers
Cometic .040" Head Gaskets (11.8:1 CR; 8.9:1 DCR)
Flycut Pistons .080" (~1cc relief)
Katech C5-R Timing Chain
Melling 10296 High Volume Oil Pump
GM LS2 Waterpump
FIC 42lbs Flow-Matched Fuel Injectors
Racetronix Fuel Pump with Upgraded Wiring Harness
MSD Plug Wires and NGK TR6 Plugs
BTR Port Matched FAST LSXR 102 Manifold
Nick Williams 102mm TB
FTP 104mm Lid with 4" Silicon Coupler
Kooks 1-7/8" Stainless Longtube Race Headers
Kooks 3" Stainless True Dual Exhaust with Quad 4" Tips
Powerbond Underdrive Pulley
FTI 3800 Stall Torque Converter
Stock 10-Bolt with 3.23 Gears
SD Tune
11-20-2012, 08:45 AM
#64
Man this thing is going to make some serious power and will haul ***!
With your changes in compression and port matching the Fast I'm going to have to add another 10rwhp to my claim of 450rwhp and it might make more than that.
Here is a graph of James Short LS1 Camaro. He has TEA stage 2 heads and a 235/243 112+3 or 112+4 camshaft in his, 1x7/8" headers and a Fast 102. He does have 4" intake tubing also.
His dyno also reads about 8-12% lower than a Dyno Jet so you could take that into account if you like.
Graph:
With your changes in compression and port matching the Fast I'm going to have to add another 10rwhp to my claim of 450rwhp and it might make more than that.
Here is a graph of James Short LS1 Camaro. He has TEA stage 2 heads and a 235/243 112+3 or 112+4 camshaft in his, 1x7/8" headers and a Fast 102. He does have 4" intake tubing also.
His dyno also reads about 8-12% lower than a Dyno Jet so you could take that into account if you like.
Graph:
11-20-2012, 05:16 PM
#70
I've talked to John briefly. I'll see if he can do SD tune. That'll help a bit with the cam and make good power.
And Erik Koenig recommends the high pressure pump. That's enough for me.
Also the 3800 will be good for the 150 shot I plan to spay on top (next round of mods is an HKE forged 348, RPM built 4L60E, and MWC 9" with a 200+ shot).
And Erik Koenig recommends the high pressure pump. That's enough for me.
Also the 3800 will be good for the 150 shot I plan to spay on top (next round of mods is an HKE forged 348, RPM built 4L60E, and MWC 9" with a 200+ shot).
Last edited by JakeFusion; 11-20-2012 at 07:01 PM.
11-21-2012, 09:40 AM
#72
i wouldnt run a SD with your setup, i made the mistake of doing it and hated every min of it, 3 top tuners around here told me to go back to MAF tune with my big cam 408 and it drives and feels 1000times better, my motor will be at around 650rwhp with spray and maf tune
imho unless you have a track only car i wouldnt run a SD tune, i know people making 1000rwhp with maf tune.... again this is just my .02
imho unless you have a track only car i wouldnt run a SD tune, i know people making 1000rwhp with maf tune.... again this is just my .02
11-21-2012, 02:58 PM
#73
i wouldnt run a SD with your setup, i made the mistake of doing it and hated every min of it, 3 top tuners around here told me to go back to MAF tune with my big cam 408 and it drives and feels 1000times better, my motor will be at around 650rwhp with spray and maf tune
imho unless you have a track only car i wouldnt run a SD tune, i know people making 1000rwhp with maf tune.... again this is just my .02
imho unless you have a track only car i wouldnt run a SD tune, i know people making 1000rwhp with maf tune.... again this is just my .02
11-21-2012, 06:26 PM
#74
LS3 swap would cost a lot more. If you take the fuel, intake, and exhaust out of the equation, the price for heads and cam is less than LS3. Even a used one.
And SD tunes are sort of hit or miss. I'd either do stock MAF or no MAF.
And SD tunes are sort of hit or miss. I'd either do stock MAF or no MAF.
11-22-2012, 10:14 AM
#76
in a nut shell its a head/cam car with supporting mods, no reason to mess with SD-tune. better to keep the MAF-tune and be done with it
for every one person i know that likes SD i know 5 that dont lol
for every one person i know that likes SD i know 5 that dont lol
