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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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IMO with the 373's and at that altitude that cam will be an absolute dog down low. The ls6 heads will help some to raise compression but i probably would end up with something in the low to mid 230 range.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 01:18 AM
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IMO with the 373's and at that altitude that cam will be an absolute dog down low. The ls6 heads will help some to raise compression but i probably would end up with something in the low to mid 230 range.
Thats another problem.. 2 days ago I had to ditch my 3.73's and go back to stock 3.42's.. my old rear end is toast. So I just bought a used stock one for 50 bucks.. I know a few people around here that say the v2 on their cars has been great.. any car feels like a dog down low around here lol. I was thinking that about my stock cam just the other day actually.. Would the V3 be any better? I talked to TSP today and the guy there said that the V3 would be a much better choice with my situation
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 04:02 AM
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Do you guys think that the torquer v3 would be too much for a DD? what is everyones opinion on the best DD cam. I really dont want it to be a pain in the ***
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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That v3 is probably your best bet for an overall balance. I daily drove the 233/239 on 112 with stock gears through a six speed and it got to be a little much sometimes but after the re tune it was fine. If you go any smaller you will probably regret it.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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You can get the Comp Cams #54-446-11(232/234 112lsa+2, lift .595"/.598") for $355. It uses the exact same lobes as the Tqr. V2 .
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...-xe-r-232-234/
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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I have a 231/234 .617"/.612" 111+2 cam that would also drive very reasonably with a good tune, and makes killer mid range power and does not give up anything down low.

Also have a 227/234 .614"/.612" 110+3 that makes stupid torque while still making peak horsepower numbers you'd never expect from a 227 intake lobe at the RPM it peaks at(6000-6200rpm).
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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The key to a cam running well is in the tune. Tune can make a small cam drive like junk or a huge cam drive close to stock. Are you going to be tuning yourself?
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
I have a 231/234 .617"/.612" 111+2 cam that would also drive very reasonably with a good tune, and makes killer mid range power and does not give up anything down low.

Also have a 227/234 .614"/.612" 110+3 that makes stupid torque while still making peak horsepower numbers you'd never expect from a 227 intake lobe at the RPM it peaks at(6000-6200rpm).
The 227 sounds appealing.. I dont want to rev higher than 6600 on my stock bottom end.. how would it be for a daily?
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rauq
The key to a cam running well is in the tune. Tune can make a small cam drive like junk or a huge cam drive close to stock. Are you going to be tuning yourself?
No no ive never tuned anything.. I was just going to do a mail order for now
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Originally Posted by Jarren_b
The 227 sounds appealing.. I dont want to rev higher than 6600 on my stock bottom end.. how would it be for a daily?
I run a very similar cam to Martins 227/234 .614"/.612" 110+3 cam, mines a 227/230 111+3lsa, .614"/ .609" and also makes really good torque and peaks at 6200rpm., and your 3.42 gears will work perfectly fine. FYI, I went with a 230 exhaust lobe since it's plenty of duration with my AFR 66cc 205 heads.

IMO, I think you'll be very happy with the 227/234 Martin recommended.
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
I have a 231/234 .617"/.612" 111+2 cam that would also drive very reasonably with a good tune, and makes killer mid range power and does not give up anything down low.

Also have a 227/234 .614"/.612" 110+3 that makes stupid torque while still making peak horsepower numbers you'd never expect from a 227 intake lobe at the RPM it peaks at(6000-6200rpm).
Also would the 227 cam be good for me when im at 4200 ft elevation? I dont want to do huge duration since I wont be goind any more than an ls6 head
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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I don't see why not, plus you'll have good a DCR with that cam, even with a stock compression ratio.
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Originally Posted by Jarren_b
The 227 sounds appealing.. I dont want to rev higher than 6600 on my stock bottom end.. how would it be for a daily?
It would be perfect IMO. Peaks at 6200 and shift at 6500. With a good tune it would be a great daily driver cam especially with the torque it makes.
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I run a very similar cam to Martins 227/234 .614"/.612" 110+3 cam, mines a 227/230 111+3lsa, .614"/ .609" and also makes really good torque and peaks at 6200rpm., and your 3.42 gears will work perfectly fine. FYI, I went with a 230 exhaust lobe since it's plenty of duration with my AFR 66cc 205 heads.

IMO, I think you'll be very happy with the 227/234 Martin recommended.
I agree and I think he will really like it also. That grind is always a huge hit with my customers.
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Also would the 227 cam be good for me when im at 4200 ft elevation? I dont want to do huge duration since I wont be goind any more than an ls6 head
BluZ28 also hit this on the head, it will keep DCR up with it's 107 ICL and 277 degrees of advertised duration. With the altitude you're living in, you need all the dynamic compression you can muster.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
It would be perfect IMO. Peaks at 6200 and shift at 6500. With a good tune it would be a great daily driver cam especially with the torque it makes.

I agree and I think he will really like it also. That grind is always a huge hit with my customers.

BluZ28 also hit this on the head, it will keep DCR up with it's 107 ICL and 277 degrees of advertised duration. With the altitude you're living in, you need all the dynamic compression you can muster.
Would I have any clearance issues with that amount of lift?
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarren_b
Would I have any clearance issues with that amount of lift?
Lift has very little influence on PTV clearance since maximum valve lift occurs while the piston is at or near BDC. Duration and ICL play the biggest factors in PTV clearance.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Lift has very little influence on PTV clearance since maximum valve lift occurs while the piston is at or near BDC. Duration and ICL play the biggest factors in PTV clearance.
Got it, well how much is that cam? I can pick up the SSHT that seems to be similar for around 450 but this is a very budget build..
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Should be a good cam to run with your setup.
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Originally Posted by Jarren_b
Got it, well how much is that cam? I can pick up the SSHT that seems to be similar for around 450 but this is a very budget build..
Custom grinds are $400 at Tick Performance.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Custom grinds are $400 at Tick Performance.
It is actually an Elite Series Camshaft that just hasn't been released yet. That said, it's 379.99!!!

For anyone else interested these are the 6 new grinds that will be released. They will be "torque minded" but still produce very impressive horsepower numbers.

223/226 .610"/.605" 111+2
223/230 .610"/.609" 110+2
227/234 .614"/.612" 110+3 (one of my favorite grinds)
231/234 .617"/.612" 111+2
235/238 .621"/.615" 112+3 (stupid mid-range torque)
235/242 .621"/.615" 111+2
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Martin, I don't want to steal the thread but why does my car peak so much higher than what you are mentioning for similar sized cams? My 228/232 with 5.3 heads peaks at 6600. Is that because the heads flow so it peaks higher, and you are speaking of a cam-only build so it peaks lower? Just wondering. Thanks.
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